(06-15-2022, 08:45 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(06-15-2022, 08:33 AM)Ronster Wrote: This is true, this country and our way of life is hanging by a thread…

...because of people like you, who keep this myth going that the election was stolen, and that vaccines are harmful, and that the January 6 incident was set up by the FBI, and that we didn't land on the moon, and the earth is flat, and so on and so forth, endlessly spewing out conspiracy theories that ignorant people buy into.

The internet has been taken over by grifters who mislead people for money or for fun.

It's because of people like you, who won't hold the system accountable. And like Mikey, who puts more emphasis on what he's told than what he sees with his own two eyes. For starters, how about not equating stuff with mountains of evidence and logical probability with flat eartherism and moon landing deniers. Calling something a conspiracy doesn't automatically mean it isn't true, not matter how much you huff and puff. How many times to the "conspiracy theorists" need to be right about something before maybe you start questioning the ones telling you they are incorrect. I could probably do 3 pages of things that were "conspiracy theories" that turned out to be true, but you never change your opinion. You and the Mikesters of the world just jump onto whatever the MSM uses to dismiss their being wrong... AGAIN. And you buy it. How about we fix our institutions? Oh, that's right... we can't do that because of you. And Mikey. 

If you want people to believe the election is on the up and up, you hold institutions accountable when they don't let observers view the ballots. You demand answers when elections are shut down and you can see that people are still inside counting votes with no oversight. You don't allow "crises" to let individual officials alter our voting systems without going through their state congress. You want to know more information when it comes out that people are visiting 10 or more ballots and taking pictures dropping off 8-10 ballots while taking photos of themselves. You don't just blindly listen to the media who says, "This was the most secure election in history," 2 days after the election when ZERO investigations have been made. You demand accountability and transparency.

I'll keep going. You don't instinctively trust an organization that convolutes the way we can see the data on a disease we are all tracking, because it doesn't support their narrative. You don't blindly follow a company's claims that a vaccine is 100% safe when there's zero data to support it. You maybe AT LEAST question your point of view when the claims that it is safe become unraveled when the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is no longer recommended, and Moderna gets banned in other countries. You maybe want a way to see if a company is being transparent and get outraged when you find out that they don't need to present their actual research when their products are peer reviewed. You could maybe even question their data when they want to keep their information secret for the next 50 years. You should question your position when they start vaccinated kids with ZERO data on its efficacy. How about questioning the policies that are created largely by people who used to be employed by these corporations in question. I could do this one all day, but I'll not waste my time trying to get you to think. But it sure would be nice if people weren't so afraid of this "crisis" that they gave up all their rights and blindly lined up to make these companies rich.

January 6th, though, lol. Let's talk about the FBI. This one really requires you to make inferences, so I'll just assume your incapable and keep this simple. We know the FBI has incited violence already. We have two court cases on record where the FBI had informants and undercover agents that funded and encouraged violence. One in a terrorist plot and the other with the kidnapping of Governor Whitmer. If you don't know about that, it's on you, but it's undisputed facts. Knowing this is in their playbook, here's where the thinking starts: It's already come out in trials that the FBI had informants in some of these groups AND embedded agents. Number 2 on the FBI's most wanted was a man named Ray Epps, who was seen outside encouraging people to storm the Capitol. His name was removed from the list with no punishment. He denies being associated with the FBI, but we have him on video giving orders to two men who began removing videos while he got on the bullhorn and told people to raid the Capitol. Considering they are prosecuting 80-year-old women for trespassing, is it not at least possible that this guy isn't being prosecuted because he's a Fed? Especially when you consider the FBI's history? The dude commanded two people to remove barricades. What about those two men? Have they been prosecuted. I bet you don't know because you don't care because you don't think for yourself. It doesn't bother you at all that, when questioned, the head of the FBI refused to say whether or not they had any involvement on January 6th? That's not a huge red flag? How about the two of you get outraged that we have an agency that can't tell our congress what they are involved in, and NO ONE PUSHES AGAINST IT. What the actual [BLEEP], man. 

You guys need to stop drinking this [BLEEP] Kool-Aid and blaming others for their lack of trust in the institutions. That just doesn't fall out of the [BLEEP] sky. Our institutions are corrupt as hell, but you bury your head in the sand and point your fingers at someone like me. Keep being a puppet, but stop pretending that I am the problem. Even if I'm wrong about some of my accusations, these problems stem directly from a system that is no longer transparent and has no accountability. If you want to fix the "conspiracy theorist," you need to pour your effort into restoring the integrity of our institutions.

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