(08-04-2022, 04:50 PM)p_rushing Wrote:

(08-03-2022, 09:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yeah her divorcing my dad was rough on both of us.  But you might have gotten it the roughest of all, from what I heard.

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His son produced recordings showing him claiming to have had a gun there that day.  So he confessed it voluntarily then tried to claim he was just bragging.

It's a gray area. There was no proof. Most juries are not convicting with more evidence than that but his skin color is wrong.

Oh I know! There is such a massive pile of statistical evidence showing that American juries treat white defendents worse than black and brown ones! How could anyone miss it? I mean just look at how many black and brown people are incarcerated, compared to white people. You can't miss it!

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(08-04-2022, 03:42 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(08-04-2022, 07:58 AM)mikesez Wrote: Obviously 15 years is excessive.  That's the way our "justice" system works if you don't support the establishment has worked since the Reagan administration.  They don't want jury trials.  They want you to plea bargain so you can get a reasonable sentence.

Fixed that for you.

So juries are part of the establishment now?

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