(06-26-2022, 08:05 PM)p_rushing Wrote:

(06-26-2022, 05:53 PM)mikesez Wrote: No one ever really explains how an exception for rape would work.  Would the woman have to file a police report first?  Would women simply lie, and tell their doctors they were raped?  Would the doctor have to have a reasonable belief that she wasn't lying?  Women get very upset about these discussions because the implication is that not all rape accusations are true.  Even if I agree that it is usually very rare for women to lie about being raped, wouldn't you have to agree that this type of exception to abortion law incentivizes false reports? It seems very messy.  And I think that will play out as states work these things out as laboratories of democracy.

Abortions for rape and incest or to save the mother's life are extremely rare. I can understand the woman not wanting the child but at the same time she is then choosing to kill the child that did nothing wrong.

It's a terrible situation but to then add to it by killing a child growing inside of you will most likely bring more trauma. There are plenty of options that don't include killing the child.

I haven't seen any of the laws with the exception but like most laws, it would require you to actually tell the truth or you could get around the law.

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The woman should have a choice in what happens next because she damn sure didn't have a choice when she was assaulted by rape or incest. 

Hopefully it's a Plan B pill but many women will not even report rape or incest because they're ashamed, blame themselves, think no one will believe her, or has been threatened not to tell. By the time she realizes she's pregnant Plan B is out the window. If she chooses to abort she chooses to live with the consequences. 

Of course, adoption is a better choice but not woman can emotionally handle the process. Black and brown babies are not as adoptable as white babies and they end up in the rabbit hole that is the foster care system which has its own problems. 

I don't wish for any woman to choose abortion. I wouldn't choose it for myself except under certain circumstances. But the government has no reason to be involved in a decision that is between a doctor and a patient. 

There are women in these states whose fetus will not live outside of the uterus once born and they will be forced to carry that fetus to term only for it to die soon after it's born. This has happened in Texas. The government has no right to force that woman to carry an unviable fetus to term, especially when her doctor has suggested termination. No. Right. If the woman chooses to do that then so be it, but at least she has that choice.

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