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North Korea flies 12 warplanes near South Korean border

#1

Things are getting a might hot over there..... A very weak Biden is directly responcible for this........ NK knows Biden will not stand up to them......

North Korea flies 12 warplanes near South Korean border, prompting Air Force scramble

Kim Jong Un ordered a pair of ballistic missile launches earlier Thursday

Twelve North Korean warplanes flew in formation near the South Korean border in a simulation of an air-to-ground attack Thursday, prompting Seoul to scramble 30 fighter jets of its own.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/north-kore...e-scramble
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#2

Because Biden is a weak [BLEEP] puppet and everyone knows it. That and its that time for Fat Man Kim to get paid for not doing bad things...
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#3

12 NK planes in a threatening flight pattern
Causing SK to scramble 30 planes into the air.

I don't see any weakness here. SK projected strength and they will call on the US if they need to. Nothing to do with Biden.
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(10-06-2022, 01:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: 12 NK planes in a threatening flight pattern
Causing SK to scramble 30 planes into the air.

I don't see any weakness here.  SK projected strength and they will call on the US if they need to.  Nothing to do with Biden.

If you don't see that a weak America instigates bad actors then you just aren't paying attention.
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#5

He's told by a corrupted media that there's nothing to see. So there's nothing to see. Don't you get it?
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(10-06-2022, 01:56 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: He's told by a corrupted media that there's nothing to see. So there's nothing to see. Don't you get it?

He's consistent if nothing else...
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#7

Bet if it was updated by wiki, he'd be well on board..
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(10-06-2022, 01:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 01:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: 12 NK planes in a threatening flight pattern
Causing SK to scramble 30 planes into the air.

I don't see any weakness here.  SK projected strength and they will call on the US if they need to.  Nothing to do with Biden.

If you don't see that a weak America instigates bad actors then you just aren't paying attention.

I pay plenty of attention.
What we have here is confirmation bias, though.
America isn't weak.  The strength of America, from a foreign perspective, doesn't change based on who the President is.
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(10-06-2022, 03:10 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 01:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: If you don't see that a weak America instigates bad actors then you just aren't paying attention.

I pay plenty of attention.
What we have here is confirmation bias, though.
America isn't weak.  The strength of America, from a foreign perspective, doesn't change based on who the President is.

LOL, WHAT? 

Uh huh, tell that to the Americans held in Teran when Carter was in office. LOL... Do you read what you type before you hit submit?
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2022, 04:24 PM by mikesez.)

(10-06-2022, 03:27 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 03:10 PM)mikesez Wrote: I pay plenty of attention.
What we have here is confirmation bias, though.
America isn't weak.  The strength of America, from a foreign perspective, doesn't change based on who the President is.

LOL, WHAT? 

Uh huh, tell that to the Americans held in Teran when Carter was in office. LOL... Do you read what you type before you hit submit?

Let's review.
Carter sent in the US military to try to free the hostages against Iran's will.
Afterwards, Carter negotiated for their release, and got it.
The Iranians agreed to the release but only as Carter was leaving office.
Then,
Reagan didn’t send any US military to Iran,
Reagan sold weapons to Iran,
Reagan had US forces retreat from the Iranians in Lebanon.

So if you think the strength of America, from Iran's perspective, changed between 1979 and 1982, due to a change in who the President was, was it really a change for the stronger, or for the weaker?
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2022, 05:57 PM by Ronster. Edited 1 time in total.)

(10-06-2022, 04:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 03:27 PM)Ronster Wrote: LOL, WHAT? 

Uh huh, tell that to the Americans held in Teran when Carter was in office. LOL... Do you read what you type before you hit submit?

Let's review.
Carter sent in the US military to try to free the hostages against Iran's will.
Afterwards, Carter negotiated for their release, and got it.
The Iranians agreed to the release but only as Carter was leaving office.
Then,
Reagan didn’t send any US military to Iran,
Reagan sold weapons to Iran,
Reagan had US forces retreat from the Iranians in Lebanon.

So if you think the strength of America, from Iran's perspective, changed between 1979 and 1982, due to a change in who the President was, was it really a change for the stronger, or for the weaker?

You trying to rewrite history over there? They let the hostages go the DAY Reagan took office? Why? Because they KNEW he would kick their [BLEEP] if they didn't...  LOL... Jimmy Carter, the 3rd worst POTUS in history. Right behind Biden and Obama...
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(10-06-2022, 05:35 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 04:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: Let's review.
Carter sent in the US military to try to free the hostages against Iran's will.
Afterwards, Carter negotiated for their release, and got it.
The Iranians agreed to the release but only as Carter was leaving office.
Then,
Reagan didn’t send any US military to Iran,
Reagan sold weapons to Iran,
Reagan had US forces retreat from the Iranians in Lebanon.

So if you think the strength of America, from Iran's perspective, changed between 1979 and 1982, due to a change in who the President was, was it really a change for the stronger, or for the weaker?

You trying to rewrite history over there? They let the hostages go the DAY Reagan took office? Why? Because they KNEW he would kick their [BLEEP] if they didn't...  LOL... Jimmy Carter, the 3 worst POTUS in history. Right behind Biden and Obama...

Pure speculation.
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(This post was last modified: 10-06-2022, 05:56 PM by Ronster.)

(10-06-2022, 05:53 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-06-2022, 05:35 PM)Ronster Wrote: You trying to rewrite history over there? They let the hostages go the DAY Reagan took office? Why? Because they KNEW he would kick their [BLEEP] if they didn't...  LOL... Jimmy Carter, the 3 worst POTUS in history. Right behind Biden and Obama...

Pure speculation.

Ya, they speculated that he would kick their [BLEEP] and let those hostages go... LOL
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i don't believe that mikesez is even old enough to even LIVED under Carter...... Carter was a weak President right out of the gate....... Resulting in HIGH unemployment (I know, I couldn't find a decent job anywhere in my area and I worked construction at the time), Double digit inflation and the misery index that Carter kept refering too in all his speeches.......1976 to 1980 was a tough period for the US. The Vietnam war had really just ended the year before, the cold war was in full swing, and the USSR was flexing it's military might all over the place...Carter was weak to begin with, all these factors made him look even weaker in the eyes of the world.... It was a period that required a strong leader... Carter wasn't it.
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(10-06-2022, 06:03 PM)The Drifter Wrote: i don't believe that mikesez is even old enough to even LIVED under Carter...... Carter was a weak President right out of the gate....... Resulting in HIGH unemployment (I know, I couldn't find a decent job anywhere in my area and I worked construction at the time), Double digit inflation and the misery index that Carter kept refering too in all his speeches.......1976 to 1980 was a tough period for the US. The Vietnam war  had really just ended the year before, the cold war was in full swing, and the USSR was flexing it's military might all over the place...Carter was weak to begin with,  all these factors made him look even weaker in the eyes of the world.... It was a period that required a strong leader... Carter wasn't it.

We know Carter was a weak President because he had little lasting impact on US law and foreign policy.  The one bright spot was the Camp David accords, which have doubtlessly saved lives.  But even these set a very questionable precedent of aid for peace.  And Egypt's army was more so the recipient of that aid than the people, locking in a system where poor people depend on a corrupt and unaccountable army for basic sustenance. 

But like you said he was dealt a tough hand.  Vietnam wasn't his fault.  The inflation wasn't his fault. Unemployment wasn't his fault. I think we agree about that.  A better man would have also struggled.  But I think Iran was in that category as well.  The Ayatollah was going to be in charge after 1979 regardless of anything Carter did.  And the Ayatollah was going to hate the US regardless of anything Carter did.  The students were going to kidnap the diplomats regardless.  The only thing Carter might have done better was protecting the embassy better before the kidnapping happened.   This narrative that Reagan was going to be a tough guy on them makes no sense.  The US military under Carter already gave it their best shot.  Surprise was key.  The hostages were scattered after that and no bigger rescue effort was plausible with any number of troops.  The Iranians weren't scared of Reagan any more than they were of Carter. They wanted some of the economic sanctions to be lifted.  Sanctions were all we could threaten them with and all we could relieve them of.
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