(02-01-2023, 05:10 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(02-01-2023, 03:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: I felt a four year deal, valued at $17.5M with $3.5M given to him up front was fair. There's a total of 94 players listed on the OTC website at RT. When you look at the total contract value, regardless of years, bonuses, etc. 

$17.5M in total contract value would bump him up from his current spot of 33rd overall to right around 15th, 16th. He's not an elite pass blocker. He's an average run blocker. He's a former 2nd RD pick that already made decent enough money. 

Here's my question. I think the franchise tag for lineman is valued at $18.2M at the moment for this year. If you're an agent, given the circumstances, as well as his age. He'll be 26 towards the end of this year. Would you rather encourage him to sign this deal above or as a team, would you tag him and seek an actual extension with Engram instead? 

Again, $20M+ for Taylor seems incredibly steep. I am strictly basing my contract around the fact that he was a late bloomer play wise as a 2nd RD pick and the fact that I only have one year of solid production to go off of. With it being mostly a one tricky pony effort in pass blocking with a lot to be desired in the run blocking department.

Again, he's getting $3.5M up front just for signing the four year deal. He's getting $3.5M over the course of four years on average (which puts him just below Wirfs and McGlinchey APY wise), he'll be 29 by the time this contract expires. If he's good as he thinks he is he can holdout midway through this contract or press his luck in the future with free agency again. 

He's an average RT and I am making him an offer based on that fact. Elite tackles do it all, they're well rounded, they don't give up the big sacks, they don't get blown off their blocks in the running game and they don't make costly mental errors on critical drives. 

He's had one good year out of four.

Gotcha, I thought you meant 20 mil per season.  Taylor will get much more than 3.5 mil per year.  I think he gets at least 10 mil per year.  McGlinchey and Wirfs are both on their rookie deals, they will get much more than that when they sign their extensions

I agree. I cited that earlier in this thread with McGlinchey and Wirfs. They're probably looking at $96M+ overall for the long haul. Which makes sense. Those guys are former first round picks, lived up to the hype, played on Superbowl caliber rosters, elite across the board, etc. 

Taylor's not one of those guys and if he's getting $10M per year I am willing to bet it's a short term contract and not a long haul deal. Would probably be a two year deal at the most by a team looking to push deep into the play-offs. 

Which is risky as a player because if you get injured during that two year contract and you're free to walk after that your value could take a massive [BLEEP]. 

I don't see any team offering him a four year deal worth close to or more than $40M though. That's just too much for a guy that's shown you "some" improvement after three years of stinking it up and also resulting in this team having to take a chance on Walker Little with a 2nd RD pick just two years ago.

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