(02-14-2023, 07:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(02-14-2023, 05:33 PM)IKhan't Wrote: If they didn't ignore CB, then why wasn't Gardner tops on the board?

Prioritizing O-Line and D-Line over CB is stupid. Every position outside of Kicker, punter and long snapper should at least be considered when taking the #1 overall player. I don't care what position a guy plays, outside of special teams. If he is head and shoulders the best player in the draft, I take him. 

I don't know how Gardner couldn't have been a "no doubter." Who was the last CB to come out of a major college that put up that kind of production at his size 6'3" and speed 4.41/40? The guy is/was a unicorn. 

You don't necessarily have to have to be great at any one position other than QB to win a title, but it makes things a lot easier if you have elite players at a variety of positions, including CB.

They signed a CB in free agency to a 30 million dollar deal 6 weeks prior to the draft in question.
That's a long, loooong way from "ignoring CB." 

Front offices do indeed prioritize or value positions differently, whether you and I like it or not.
 CB will be further down some GM's lists than others. 

You've mentioned college production in at least 4 posts that I've seen the past few days.
Nothing in the NFL lexicon could be more subjective than "college production."
There are so many variables in "college production" that in no way translate to the professional game. Even just the fluctuations in level of competition from one NCAA conference to the next practically makes it a non-factor for many players.

I know. I was referring to ignoring CB in the draft. I'm simply saying that I and others, recognized that "Sauce" Gardner should've been the #1 overall pick the day the season ended. I saw him as the best overall player midway through the season. Sometimes, you see a certain player and you just see stardom. It's not always that way. Lord knows, I have been wrong on some guys in the past, but I truly feel as strongly about Gardner as I did when I saw Trevor Lawrence play. I knew he was the best overall player in the 2021 draft. I truly believed both Lawrence and Gardner were "no-brainer" #1 overall picks. Therefore we shouldn't have even signed Darious Williams in the first place, because we should've had Gardner locked in as the #1 pick for months. That would've saved us $30 million dollars overall and $12.5 million this coming season and imo, we would have had the best pair of young lockdown corners in the NFL for the foreseeable future. 

I know teams prioritize certain positions. I said that. I still think it's wrong and stupid and it doesn't change that I would still draft the BAP. Just because other teams follow a certain formula, doesn't mean I would. The only position I value over others is QB and we already have a franchise QB. 

I know there are variables in college production. I said that in one of my other posts. I took that into account when I watched Gardner play. It doesn't change anything. When I saw him play, I saw a bigger version of Darrelle Revis. What team in their right mind wouldn't want that? 

The whole question of BAP versus value has been answered on my end. I see/saw Gardner as a future HOF player. Not a potential HOF player, a HOF player. I'm sticking with this assessment. I'm just explaining what I would have done. I identified him as my top player, regardless of the position and I would've made him my #1 overall selection. With this coming draft, I would do the same thing and select the top player available, no matter what position he plays. I have no clue right now who that player may be. It's much different picking #24 and none of us know who will actually be available when we are on the clock. Everyone thinks their way of selecting is better, but none of us on this board are GM's, (at least I think none of us are.) This is all subjective and in the grand scheme of things, it's meaningless, because in the end, none of our opinions matter. We're not making the real decisions. We're just trying to justify why we would make the picks we would make. It's all meaningless fun.

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