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The LG and Center Issues 2022/23


(01-18-2024, 05:08 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:
(01-25-2023, 03:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I've been a broken record about the deficiency here this year and many of you have let me know I'm perhaps too over-the-top in my criticism. 
Maybe.
But nonetheless - here is a thread on the topic and I'll be posting gifs of some of the gaffes as I compile them.

As mentioned in another thread, you'll notice stunts and twists giving these guys fits at times. They release guys inside too often. Some run blocking mishaps mixed in too. 

I started roughly around mid season in reviewing all22 footage and focused on Fortner. I'm only three games in, but here's what I've found so far:

[Image: FORT-1.gif]




[Image: fort-2.gif]

more...

[Image: FORT-5.gif]

[Image: LFort-6.gif]

[Image: LFort-7.gif]

Some of these is the QB. When I can get to 4 seconds and the dude hasn't moved, evaded, stepped away from pressure... Its a QB thing. The one after "more..." and the Ravens 1 96 did win the bull but it was ~4 seconds into the rush. That is an eternity for a QB. Fortner is a recurring theme here, and he actually seems to be messing up a lot of our guards assignments as well... Good gifs, its just some of the rush ones you provide are not on the OL, but in fact the QB.

TLDR - We really, really need a good center and I think the entire O line would be better. Yes, Ezra missed some but that's something you can fix, IE - assignment wise looks like he was confused in a couple of these... The center is the glaring weakness when I look at these gifs.

You need a stopwatch

The first one you mention is 2.3 seconds and the second you mention (involving play action) is 2.4 seconds. 

C'mon.

BTW - All of these clips are from 2022
This thread was started to discuss adding a contingency backup plan at center (and LG) last offseason because Fortner and Shatley were so bad in 2022. 

I haven't bothered to add any 2023 clips because now basically everyone sees it plainly. 
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The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by NYC4jags - 01-25-2023, 03:33 PM
The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-25-2023, 03:43 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by rfc17 - 01-25-2023, 08:21 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by NH3 - 01-26-2023, 09:25 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by carp8dm - 01-26-2023, 11:50 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Eric1 - 01-26-2023, 08:05 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Kane - 01-29-2023, 04:31 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Kane - 01-29-2023, 04:36 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by ATLjag - 01-26-2023, 05:09 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-26-2023, 06:00 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by carp8dm - 01-27-2023, 12:08 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Jag88 - 01-27-2023, 05:10 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by IKhan't - 01-28-2023, 03:42 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by copycat - 01-29-2023, 05:06 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Mikey - 01-30-2023, 11:00 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by jj82284 - 01-29-2023, 05:57 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-29-2023, 07:59 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by mikesez - 02-02-2023, 10:31 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Butters - 02-03-2023, 10:55 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 02-04-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by IKhan't - 02-04-2023, 10:36 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by mikesez - 02-04-2023, 12:32 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by mikesez - 02-04-2023, 02:31 PM
I - by rpr52121 - 02-04-2023, 03:25 PM
RE: I - by mikesez - 02-04-2023, 04:27 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Kane - 02-04-2023, 06:20 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Mikey - 10-09-2023, 08:34 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 10-09-2023, 08:55 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by carp8dm - 10-08-2023, 06:12 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by mikesez - 01-09-2024, 11:25 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by mikesez - 01-10-2024, 09:09 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by rfc17 - 01-09-2024, 11:06 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 11:02 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 11:20 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-11-2024, 12:07 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-11-2024, 12:49 PM
The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-11-2024, 05:37 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by NoShoes - 01-12-2024, 11:06 AM
The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 11:53 AM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 12:45 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 01:06 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 12:06 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 01:45 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by NoShoes - 01-12-2024, 03:51 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Caldrac - 01-12-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by NYC4jags - 01-18-2024, 05:16 PM
RE: The LG and Center Issues 2022/23 - by Jag149 - 01-19-2024, 01:17 AM



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