(03-17-2023, 11:10 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-17-2023, 10:20 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Excuse me lord stat keeper, sometimes I do get Herndon and Griffin mixed up, but both of them were responsible for some attrocious late game scores by the opposing team. Whether it was 2 or 3, I don't know and i'm not gonna bother myself to look through it now. But during the season all we heard was "DERRR IF OUR DEFENSE DIDNT BLOW A LAST MIN TD WE WOULDA WON!!" from you and others.. and most of the time it was off a long pass on the sideline against either Griffin or Herndon. 

Point is, theres a reason our D was dramatically improved when the front office finally did what most of us wanted them to do from the start and moved that bum inside and allowed Williams to play outside. Theres A LOT of fans who think Williams is a top tier outside CB on this forum and it's laughable, he's really NOT.. he's just so much better than the two bums he proceeded to replace that it felt that way.

Regardless, Herndon is a terrible player.. the kind of guy who comes in off the bench and the opposing offense knows where to go with the ball. Is he OK as a backup? Sure whatever but he's not someone I'd actively try to keep on the roster.

Also what do you mean 5th DB on the roster? When Griffin went down HE PLAYED AS THE #2 TO CAMPBELL. And he actively LOST games for us.

Shaq Griffin, somehow was just as bad or worse then Herndon giving up deep outside passes late in the 4th but regardless both of them were absolute trash when it was crunch time and not much better any other time.

LOL
That's a lot of words making very little sense. 

1. You're right - he was the 4th CB - not the 5th.  Changes none of my points. 
   
2. Why do you keep saying he lost games? Which games??  tell us? LOL
   
3. Your memories of those deep passes is sketchy at best - and me complaining about Herndon giving up passes down the sideline is strange at best. I can only recall seeing it twice that it got under my skin and I don't recall posting about it. I posted more about his struggle in the slot, even though he was actually better there. 
   
4. Griffin, sure, I've been talking about his poor play since middle of 2021. But that is not what we are talking about. In fact Griffin's failure is the main reason we even have to talk about Herndon. 
   
5. You're being an idiot about Williams too, but we'll just let that play itself out on the field. He played very well outside when they finally moved him. Haven't seen anyone but you use the term "top tier," but whatever. Makes as much sense as the rest of this word salad you're vomiting tonight. 
   

10:05. THE FACT THAT I LOOKED UP THE VIDEO OF TRES FIRST START OUTSIDE THIS PAST SEASON AFTER SHAQ WENT DOWN AND FOUND HIS FIRST GAME LOSING CHUNK PLAY GIVEN UP JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE DUMB [BLEEP] YOU ARE. Like I said, not gonna go through the entire seasons footage just to prove myself, but just for an example of what  I mean, his very first start after Griffin went down he proceeded to give up the big easy play to allow the opposing team to come back and take the lead.

THERE ARE 10-15 PLAYS YOU CAN FIND THROUGHOUT THE SEASON OF HIM GETTING TOASTED ON A GO ROUTE which get swept under the rug a bit, because not ALL of them were the chunk plays that lead to the loss, but he does it in the 4th quarter like it's his job. 

And nothing I said is being an idiot about Williams, I am the original poster that lobbied for him to play outside because Shaq/Tre are liabilities, and he's not nearly on their level of suck.
Everything I said made perfect sense, you're just an ignorant clown who lacks any intelligent thought when it comes to football.

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