(04-08-2023, 08:38 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(04-08-2023, 07:59 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You assume that having rookies playing one year vs second year guys playing the next has no impact on performance. That's your take on the Center too. You went to the mat for the QB when he was in this spot but demand replacements for other rookies in similar circumstances. Sure, there's a value and talent difference in the #1 and later round guys, but you're still overstating the need IMO. We have young guys in that group who could potentially be the solution that allows us to use the draft on the big guy positions of immediate need.

Big nope on that assertion.


The rookies you are talking about performing at nickel in year 2 were selected #222 and #197 

Yet you just conflated my views on them with my views on a #1 overall pick and a #65 pick. 

That plane has no wings. Not gonna get off the ground. Yes, I read your caveat. It negates your point. 

Two things of import that differentiate my views of center and nickel needs:

1. I expect Fortner to improve, but if we're likely to get a guard anyway, I want one who can play center if LF struggles.  If that sounds like a big ask, you're thinking too small IMO.
   
2. Nickel is actually one of the few glaring needs on the team. Why just sit on your hands? Just fix it with actual talent. It's not like we have a ton of holes to fill. Your rookie 7th rounders can still compete, but we have enough capital that we don't need to count on them. 
   

I'm not overstating the need, you are devaluing the position.

Which other positions are in such dire need that you want to bypass a 3rd or 4th round nickel back?