(04-17-2023, 05:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(04-17-2023, 04:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: That $13 million of dead cap money has nothing to do with any decision to keep a guy on the roster.  The money is gone.  Paid in a previous year.  

You don't seem to get it.  Maybe I'm not explaining this very well.

Whether he's on the team or not, that money is gone, already paid out.  We just used an accounting trick to push the accounting from one year to the next.  If I want him on the team, it's not because he's got a big dead cap hit.  It only has to do with his value to the team and his cost in terms of base salary not yet paid out.  Because that dead cap hit is going to be there whether he's on the team or not.

You're explaining it just fine for your point which is not my point. All I'm saying is I feel better about the future money on the cap when the player is still on the roster when we're dinged for it in the future year. I do not like it when we are attributing cap dollars to players who are not on the roster like the $4 million we're taking for Shaq Griffin this year. Lots of players taking up your cap space who aren't actually playing for you anymore is the risk of all these restructures (see Jags 2003). Look at the Rams, they have ~20% of this year's cap tied up in Ramsey, Floyd, Bobby Wagner, and the 2 year retired Andrew Whitworth; that's the textbook definition of cap hell that I want the Jags to avoid.

Okay, I think I understand what you are saying now.  You would feel better if a guy who's carrying a dead cap hit is on the team.  There's nothing wrong with that feeling, although personally, I would not want the dead cap hit the guy is carrying around to factor into the decision as to whether to keep him.  

I don't like the way we are pushing cap hits, for money already paid, into the future, but that's the result of hiring a bunch of high priced free agents who, against all odds, actually lived up to their contracts, so we don't want to let go of them, and to keep them around, we have to push the cap hits for other players into the future.  We've restructured about everyone we can restructure this year, and I don't know what we're going to do next year, unless we do funky stuff like adding (fake) voidable years onto contracts and pushing even more cap hits into the future.  There is a limit, I'm just not sure where it is.

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