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Whatever it takes, I support it. Spend big, build big, play elsewhere for two years, just get a long term deal done to stay in Jax
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New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents)

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(This post was last modified: 05-24-2023, 03:59 PM by Caldrac. Edited 2 times in total.)

(05-24-2023, 03:38 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(05-24-2023, 01:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Fair and valid points. I appreciate the timeline. It sounds like it's all but a foregone conclusion now. They're trying to capture the European market on a more well rounded and permanent basis. Jacksonville would be the flagship franchise. 

I'll make a bold prediction. If the Jaguars win a Superbowl within the next three years of football? I could see them being moved to London to keep it interesting and strong over there. We're not giving them some rundown franchise at that point. You're getting a big name product with big time accomplishments. 

It will probably be rigged as well. Just had to put my tinfoil hat on for this one. Would be a fitting and depressing finale to the chapter of football in Jacksonville. "Here, you're small market team, we gave you a Superbowl, now, adios!".

I was actually in the "Naysayer" or whatever category up until Goodell's comment.  You can put me in the "Concerned Fan" category now and yes I realize I could be reading way too much into it.  To Khan's credit, he appears to be trying to make it work here and they wanted to make it clear before the schedule dropped that they would only do 2 games in London if one of them were an away game.  Perhaps Goodell's comment was simply strategically dropped to help light a fire under local government to acquiesce to Khan's and the league's demands/preferences.

 My questions are:  If these extra weeks in London are for "evaluation" purposes, why would the Jags help further evaluate a market and travel effects and then if it proves worthwhile then cede it to an expansion team or other franchise relocating down the road?  I guess the counter argument would be revenue sharing, but that wouldn't cover it for me by itself considering you're doing all that work for a 1/32 slice of the benefit.  Also, if we are to play elsewhere for 2 years (or however long) during a stadium reno/rebuild and you're already playing 1 or more games in London, why wouldn't London be on the table for your "temporary" home?  And if you go to London full time for a "temporary" period and it's a smashing success, why wouldn't you as the owner consider just claiming that market?  Even if the negotiated cost of leaving were to be in the $1 Billion range, the value of a franchise operating out of London would likely instantly be worth more than a billion more than the Jags are currently worth.  As a business man you'd have to consider it.  These are not new questions though.  They have been asked since the onset of playing in London.  I guess what it boils down to is I'd just like to know where the line is because there doesn't appear to be one and there probably isn't one which is why I'm a "Concerned Fan" now.

You're correct to be concerned. It's valid. Also, funny enough. Not too long ago Jaguars twitter announced it's naming rights or branding rights into Ireland. Marketing, etc. Further expanding our foothold in Europe. Just continues to give more weight to these concerns on the scale of uncertainty. 

There's something to these comments as of late. It's probably part real and also part bluff. Khan is a businessman at the end of the day. All this talk about a third game, expanding into Ireland, etc. It's a really strong hand of cards to hold at a meeting table when you're trying to get a deal worked out here in Jacksonville. 

That's a rich man's trick. You play both sides no matter the cost because in the end you're still going to win.
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Messages In This Thread
New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by NYC4jags - 05-24-2023, 10:31 AM
RE: New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by Mikey - 05-25-2023, 08:12 AM
RE: New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by Mikey - 05-25-2023, 08:09 AM
RE: New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by NH3 - 05-24-2023, 12:44 PM
RE: New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by Caldrac - 05-24-2023, 03:58 PM
RE: New Stadium Poll (Duval Residents) - by Mikey - 05-25-2023, 08:01 AM



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