(05-26-2023, 01:47 PM)Dewboy01 Wrote:

(05-26-2023, 01:07 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: How can you say a move that makes sure Logan Cooke never kicks off for us again is lateral?    If anything it lets Logan focus on punts only, while our kicker take every kickoff and tries to boom the ball out of the end zone every time.   I recently rewatched the Ratbird game...remember our final kickoff?   Fortunately they came up 5 yards short on the game winning field goal.

First. I said I see it as almost a lateral move.

Second - if you had bothered to read my entire post, you'd see where I question the impact of the new kickoff rules.  A high kickoff to the 10yd line might end up being more likely to be a fair catch in the upcoming season than to be returned, possibly resulting in more touchbacks for kickers that don't have the leg strength that McManus has.

Third - Logan Cooke kicked off one time last year. One Time. Even if Cooke had to handle kick off duties, I'm not convinced that would not allow him to focus on his punting lol. Also, in his 5 years in the league Cooke has kicked off 114 times resulting in 55 touchbacks (48%).  Riley kicked off 88 times last season resulting in 44 touchbacks (50%). 

For comparison, McManus had a touchback percentage of 70% last season, so yes that will definitely be an upgrade for us - depending on the impact of the new rule.  As with most kickers with big legs, I think we may lose a just a little accuracy on the shorter kicks but will gain the ability to hit longer FGs probably than we have ever been able to.

Well said. I also had the same outlook with it being a lateral move. And yes Patterson was more accurate inside the 40.

The second thought I had was I wonder if Patterson has some type of injury or something off the field going on, which led to the Jaguars signing McManus. 

Fun Fact: Only 2 kickers in Jaguars history has made more field goals in a single season than Riley Patterson. Lambo made 33 in 2019 and Hollis made 31 in ‘97 and ‘99. Patterson made 30 in 2022. Hollis also made 30 in ‘96.  

Another Fun Fact: Since the NFL moved the extra point back in 2015, Riley Patterson is now the most accurate kicker for PAT’s in a single season with 97.3%, while Jason Myers is the least accurate PAT kicker with 7 misses in 2015 with 82.1%

Here are some more McManus vs Patterson comparisons.

McManus career  FG% is 81.4
Patterson career FG% is 89.3 

2022 McManus FG% is 77.8 - ranked 34th
2022 Patterson FG% is 85.7 - ranked 21st

2022 McManus KO Avg = 62.7
2022 Patterson KO Avg = 62.4

2022 McManus KO yards = 4480
2022 Patterson KO yards = 5492, which is 2nd in team history in a single season. Lindsey had 5708 in 1999. 

2022 McManus from 50+yards = 61.5%
2022 Patterson from 50+yards = 66.7%

2022 McManus touchbacks = 51
2022 Patterson touchbacks = 44
* McManus played a mile higher *for the lolz 


2022 McManus scored 109 points
2022 Patterson scored 126 points

2022 McManus made 28 FG
2022 Patterson made 30 FG

2022 McManus had 2 FG blocked
2022 Patterson had 0 FG blocked

2022 McManus was 0/2 from 60
2022 Patterson was 0/0 from 60

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