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Why it’s time for LGB to divorce T and Q

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An interesting article on a subject we've kind of discussed before. It's the POV from the LGB folks of the ever evolving alphabet group. Just as the far left has hijacked the democrat party and made everything about them, they have also hijacked (and politicized) the LGB movement by adding their brand of crazy to it. 

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A standup comic named Paul Elia joked to an audience in Los Angeles last month about the newfangled Pride flag, which has in recent years replaced the better-known “rainbow flag” at many LGBT events in America.

“It has like six additional colors that represent the transgender and nonbinary community,” Elia enthused. “They had gay Pride outside my house, and I was watching everybody . . . waving it around . . . And then I saw some people with the old gay flag. Is that, like, the gay confederacy,” Elia asked. “What if there’s a gay civil war?”

The audience chuckled but Elia was onto something. A movement is underfoot on both sides of the Atlantic to decouple the alphabet soup that has come to be known as “LGBTQ+.”

As rising numbers of old-fashioned LGBs see it, the “T” — for transgender — and “Q” for queer, don’t necessarily have much in common with gays and lesbians.


For these ideological reformists, the LGBTQ mash-up and community-wide obsession with trans issues is sowing confusion and chaos within politics and popular culture — eroding much of the progress sexual minorities have fought to achieve.


I encourage you to read the whole thing. There are a lot of highlights I could add here but I prefer to read things in context. 


This short letter from a conservative gay writer in 2018 also touches on the subject. He wrote it for a magazine he no longer works for.

The Gay Rights Movement Is Undoing Its Best Work

A new report out from GLAAD suggests that there has been something of a retrenchment in comfort with gay equality. The massive gains of the last couple of decades have stalled a little. While the percentage of people who support equality for gays, lesbians, and transgender people remains at a high of 79 percent, more people are expressing some discomfort: “In 2014, for example, 27 percent of non-LGBT Americans said they would be ‘very’ or ‘somewhat’ uncomfortable looking at a wedding picture on an LGBT co-worker’s desk. The following year, that figure dipped to 25 percent. Now, it has returned to 27 percent.” The survey shows a similar rise in discomfort in several other day-to-day situations.

Let’s not get carried away here. But some small stalling in momentum seems clear, across so many areas. The question is, why? The mainstream media has no other explanation than, well, Trump, and a culture more tolerant of intolerance. That may well be part of it. But no one seems to notice the profound shift in the tone and substance of advocacy for gay equality in recent years, and the radicalization of the movement’s ideology and rhetoric. That is also surely having an impact.

For a couple of decades, many non-leftists, in the wake of the plague, took more control of the messaging of gay rights. We emphasized those things that united gays and straights, and we celebrated institutions of integration — such as marriage rights and open military service. We portrayed ourselves as average citizens seeking merely the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else — Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals. We were largely gender-conforming, which is not in any way better than non-gender-conforming, but this helped get the conversation started and sustained. We adopted a much less leftist stance — and few can really dispute that it was one of the most swiftly successful civil-rights movements in history.

But since Obergefell? As many of us saw our goals largely completed and moved on, the far left filled the void. The movement is now rhetorically as much about race and gender as it is about sexual orientation (“intersectionality”), prefers alternatives to marriage to marriage equality, sees white men as “problematic,” masculinity as toxic, gender as fluid, and race as fundamental. They have no desire to seem “virtually normal”; they are contemptuous of “respectability politics” — which means most politics outside the left. Above all, they have advocated transgenderism, an ideology that goes far beyond recognizing the dignity and humanity and civil equality of trans people into a critique of gender, masculinity, femininity, and heterosexuality. “Live and let live” became: “If you don’t believe gender is nonbinary, you’re a bigot.” I would be shocked if this sudden lurch in the message didn’t in some way negatively affect some straight people’s views of gays.

The left’s indifference to religious freedom — see the question of Masterpiece Cakeshop — has also taken a toll. So have the PC bromides of the LGBTQRSTUV reformulation. It’s a clearly ideological construct, and so it tends to feed ideological polarization, rather than unwind it. The gay-rights movement achieved its biggest gains when we worked against polarization, reached out across the spectrum, emphasized the human rather than the political, and did the key, hard educational work in our families, schools, churches, and neighborhoods. Too many seem eager to forget those lessons.

The Trump era is, I fear, not just about this hideous embarrassment of a president. It’s also fueled by a reaction of many ordinary people to the excesses of the social-justice left — on immigration, race, gender, and sexual orientation. If the gay-rights movement decides to throw in with this new leftism, and abandon the moderation and integrationism of the recent past, they risk turning gay equality from being about a win-win process for gays and straights into a war between “LGBT” people and the rest. That’s a battle none of us need to fight. Especially after the real war was won.
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TLDR: The left freak even themselves out.
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(11-20-2023, 11:42 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: TLDR: The left freak even themselves out.

And it's pretty much all Trump's fault.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-20-2023, 11:42 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: TLDR: The left freak even themselves out.

If given enough time, they eventually eat their own.
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(11-22-2023, 01:50 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(11-20-2023, 11:42 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: TLDR: The left freak even themselves out.

If given enough time, they eventually eat their own.

They already do.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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..... and people wonder why Muslims don't want the world to become Westernized.
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(11-22-2023, 02:58 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: ..... and people wonder why Muslims don't want the world to become Westernized.

Yep.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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