It's lucky that your backup gets to play agains the worst team in the League. We're lucky that ours is going to get to play the two worst.

We didn't need to beat Tampa Bay, and it was clear the Prince that Was Promised was clearly not playing well because of mulitple injuries.

Would have been smart to just sit him.

Again, Hindsight.

But still....  It's been obvious for at least a month that Lawrence isn't playing the way he did last year.

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CJ did his job today.

Said in an earlier thread that CJ starting could be a benefit as Press and Doug would be forced to change their game plan. Jumping out to a lead helped but we saw far more runs than we had been. More plays from under center. Saw some play action from under center.  I could be wring but it didn't feel like we were as horizontal as normal. Playing a bad carolina team obviously made everything easier.  But I hope we call the game similar next week no matter who starts.  Offense had gotten too stale and too predictable. And relied on Trevor having to do everything.  It is possible CJ made some safe 3rd down conversions trevor would have missed but it also felt like there were bigger plays not hit because trevor wasn't in there.

What you saw today was not a changed gameplan. 

What you saw was a game manager type QB taking what the defense gives him instead of playing hero ball all game and missing wide open WRs. 

Add in a dash of Cam Robinson being leagues better than who he replaced.

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Said in an earlier thread that CJ starting could be a benefit as Press and Doug would be forced to change their game plan. Jumping out to a lead helped but we saw far more runs than we had been. More plays from under center. Saw some play action from under center. I could be wring but it didn't feel like we were as horizontal as normal. Playing a bad carolina team obviously made everything easier. But I hope we call the game similar next week no matter who starts. Offense had gotten too stale and too predictable. And relied on Trevor having to do everything. It is possible CJ made some safe 3rd down conversions trevor would have missed but it also felt like there were bigger plays not hit because trevor wasn't in there.

It's a soup of things.

CJ taking what the defense gave him today and the unflinching commitment to get Etienne involved was probably preached all week knowing Lawrence's injury situation.

Lawrence is guilty though of looking for the homerun plays way more frequently than taking the easy base hits to extend drives.

I think it's something he personally needs to invest himself with during the off season on film collectively because it has been a difference in some of these games.

Playing Carolina with a defense that stayed on them from the very first snap also helped. It's the worst team in football.

I don't think this team gets this lucky in the final game of the season and it's a win and you're in situation. You either show up and show out like you really want this divisional title again or you lay an egg.

I don't think there's a gray area here for me. Win with conviction. Win with authority. Win the momentum going into the first round of the play offs.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Yep, CJ held the Panthers to zero.

Meanwhile last year: ERMAGERD TREVOR DESTROYED THE CHARGERS / COLTS WEEK 2-3

also last year: defense held both teams to 10 and 0.


Can't use that logic only when it's in your favour.

You are a literal clown. I used to feel sorry for when other posters kept holding your terrible takes over your head but you continue to prove them right

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CJ did his job today.

Said in an earlier thread that CJ starting could be a benefit as Press and Doug would be forced to change their game plan. Jumping out to a lead helped but we saw far more runs than we had been. More plays from under center. Saw some play action from under center.  I could be wring but it didn't feel like we were as horizontal as normal. Playing a bad carolina team obviously made everything easier.  But I hope we call the game similar next week no matter who starts.  Offense had gotten too stale and too predictable. And relied on Trevor having to do everything.  It is possible CJ made some safe 3rd down conversions trevor would have missed but it also felt like there were bigger plays not hit because trevor wasn't in there.

What you saw today was not a changed gameplan. 

What you saw was a game manager type QB taking what the defense gives him instead of playing hero ball all game and missing wide open WRs. 

It's crazy how well coached The Slinger was compared to Trevor Lawrence.  It's almost like CJ is a vet QB that knows how to manage a game and Trevor Lawrence is just thrown to the wolves and hoping that he can figure it out.

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What you saw today was not a changed gameplan. 

What you saw was a game manager type QB taking what the defense gives him instead of playing hero ball all game and missing wide open WRs. 

It's crazy how well coached The Slinger was compared to Trevor Lawrence.  It's almost like CJ is a vet QB that knows how to manage a game and Trevor Lawrence is just thrown to the wolves and hoping that he can figure it out.

This thread title should be change to the clown show.... How many clowns can we get into one thread

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It was Carolina calm down....

Regardless, this is the best the offense has looked in nearly a month. It was refreshing not seeing the ball go to the other team 4-5x a game via turnover.

Again it's Carolina

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Meanwhile last year: ERMAGERD TREVOR DESTROYED THE CHARGERS / COLTS WEEK 2-3

also last year: defense held both teams to 10 and 0.


Can't use that logic only when it's in your favour.

Well, seeing as I DIDN’T use that logic…

Here.  I’ll make it simpler.  I don’t care who the [BLEEP] the QB, was the defense OBVIOUSLY won that game.

But going back to the OP original post for ‘context’ it would have been absolutely asinine to start Beathard even if Lawrence could go and ‘wait for next year’ to be OK.  

So I guess we wait for next year now to put Lawrence back in?

Context would be rolling out an obviously broken QB that needs to heal and take a breather as he needs to get right. It worked. I literally just said in this thread a few hours ago I hope to see Trevor next week. Relax man, it’s ok that CJ did well. Happy new year.

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What you saw today was not a changed gameplan. 

What you saw was a game manager type QB taking what the defense gives him instead of playing hero ball all game and missing wide open WRs. 

It's crazy how well coached The Slinger was compared to Trevor Lawrence.  It's almost like CJ is a vet QB that knows how to manage a game and Trevor Lawrence is just thrown to the wolves and hoping that he can figure it out.

They obviously dumbed the playbook down but maybe they should have done that a while ago for Trevor when he was hurt.

Again, it also helps to not play the Browns (elite D), Ravens (elite D) and Tampa surging.

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It's crazy how well coached The Slinger was compared to Trevor Lawrence.  It's almost like CJ is a vet QB that knows how to manage a game and Trevor Lawrence is just thrown to the wolves and hoping that he can figure it out.

They obviously dumbed the playbook down but maybe they should have done that a while ago for Trevor when he was hurt.

Again, it also helps to not play the Browns (elite D), Ravens (elite D) and Tampa surging.

The jags have lost mostly tight games and against play off type teams.

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Said in an earlier thread that CJ starting could be a benefit as Press and Doug would be forced to change their game plan. Jumping out to a lead helped but we saw far more runs than we had been. More plays from under center. Saw some play action from under center.  I could be wring but it didn't feel like we were as horizontal as normal. Playing a bad carolina team obviously made everything easier.  But I hope we call the game similar next week no matter who starts.  Offense had gotten too stale and too predictable. And relied on Trevor having to do everything.  It is possible CJ made some safe 3rd down conversions trevor would have missed but it also felt like there were bigger plays not hit because trevor wasn't in there.

Bingo

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It's crazy how well coached The Slinger was compared to Trevor Lawrence.  It's almost like CJ is a vet QB that knows how to manage a game and Trevor Lawrence is just thrown to the wolves and hoping that he can figure it out.

This thread title should be change to the clown show.... How many clowns can we get into one thread

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Regardless, this is the best the offense has looked in nearly a month. It was refreshing not seeing the ball go to the other team 4-5x a game via turnover.

Again it's Carolina

CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

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This thread title should be change to the clown show.... How many clowns can we get into one thread

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Again it's Carolina

CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

Dude again it's Carolina.... hardly a comparison....if he went up against any of the four teams we played in the previous games he would have been destroyed..... it's not even up for discussion

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That’s was the get right medicine game.

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This thread title should be change to the clown show.... How many clowns can we get into one thread

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Again it's Carolina

CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

Not to mention it was all ETN and the defense....he didn't even throw a TD pass....all FG and running TDS

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CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

Not to mention it was all ETN and the defense....he didn't even throw a TD pass....all FG and running TDS

You’re right, CJ did nothing well today. Good night.

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CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

Dude again it's Carolina.... hardly a comparison....if he went up against any of the four teams we played in the previous games he would have been destroyed..... it's not even up for discussion

Yes it was Carolina, good catch! ? This was the next game on the schedule that we’ve been talking about. That’s the conversation we’ve been having all along…

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Ice veins is nice in a back up qb.

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Line played better, defense got back on their horse and looked competent albeit against a really anemic offense. That said, they had just put 30 on GB the prior week. CJ did exactly what you want the backup QB to do, no more no less. Ran the offense, made some plays there with his legs and took open chances, took care of the ball and didn't cost the team. We needed to get off the shnide in the worst way. Hopefully we can keep playing winning ball. Our season ends with our next L.

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Meanwhile last year: ERMAGERD TREVOR DESTROYED THE CHARGERS / COLTS WEEK 2-3

also last year: defense held both teams to 10 and 0.


Can't use that logic only when it's in your favour.

You are a literal clown. I used to feel sorry for when other posters kept holding your terrible takes over your head but you continue to prove them right

Feel sorry for what? I do not care if people disagree with me. I call things as I see them and do not make excuses for players just because they are on my team. Nothing I've said about Trevor Lawrence has been inaccurate. 

If you want to clown on me, i'll give you freebies:

I wanted Cam Robinson gone, he's good.
I wanted to trade Josh Allen at one point, he's elite.
I thought CJ Stroud was going to be awful, he's insanely good.
Hell i'll even go as far back as wanting to draft that WR Kevin White who did absolutely nothing in his career.

However, calling pure observations "Terrible Takes" is pretty dumb. When I point out that a guy has a tendency to sail passes, stare down his first read, and make terrible decisions in terms of throwing the ball into double coverage whilst having a wide open wr running underneath  before he wears a jaguars uniform and then he proceeds to lead the entire NFL in turnovers his first 3 years I don't see where my observation was invalid. Every issue I pointed out has been an issue in the NFL, and again these "takes" were observations.. If you just stat read or watch highlights from his time at Clemson nothing would suggest he would be an inaccurate turnover machine with questionable decision making. I came to that conclusion before anyone saw him do it in the NFL. 

~Things to keep note of~

JaguarMVP & that Kangaroo avatar guy both started essentially copying everything I said but also labeled him a bust, I never called him a bust, I never said he couldn't become a good QB. The worst thing I said about him is that his draft hype was over played based on what I saw from the play I watched at Clemson. 


The funny thing is, I like Trevor a lot and think while he has flaws he certainly has the potential to be a really good QB, I just don't jump the gun like a drunk biased fan. I was about ready to crown him as the franchise guy after a stretch of games he played last year where he showed some serious potential, and then he started to fall back into a slump heading into the playoffs, our defense and ETN kept us in the hunt last year. 

The opinions of fans based on the chargers playoff game last year tells you who really is paying attention to his play. 

He played a horrible first half, and an immaculate second half. I can both appreciate the good from the second half while also pointing out he was the sole reason we needed to recover from a 27-0 deficit.

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CJ turned out to be a great option after you threw insults at the mere suggestion and now you call people clowns after he did well?  Ok.

Not to mention it was all ETN and the defense....he didn't even throw a TD pass....all FG and running TDS

Nejagsfan has to be Trevors wife, this guy is insufferable.

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Oh, you care a great deal. It's why you keep defending your bad takes months after the fact and try to stab TLaw every chance you get even now.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It's sure fun to see people who said playing the backup QB would be a disaster now try to deflect and redirect based on the outcome of the game. "Its Carolina, the defense won it, blah blah blah." The unfiltered truth is that the QB managed the game, didnt turn it over, and won. Something we havent managed to do in the 4 weeks prior. But keep on spinning, spin Docs.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption