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Notable 2023 stats:

#1

Lawrence finished the 2023 season with 4,016 yards passing with 21 passing TDs. 

It marks the first time in Jaguars history a player had back to back 4,000 yard seasons.

Lawrence also joins Blake Bortles as the only QBs in franchise history to have back to back seasons with 20 or more TDs. 

In 3 seasons, Lawrence has 58 TD passes to 39 interceptions, with 11 rushing TDs for a total of 69 TDs which is the 2nd most in franchise history across 3 seasons. (Bortles had 74)

Evan Engram with a monster season. 114 receptions with 963 receiving yards and 4 TDs, 2 shy of the franchise record. He registered 4 or more receptions in every game, joining Jimmy Smith as the only 2 players in franchise history. Engram’s 114 receptions are the 2nd most receptions in franchise history for a single-season, and a franchise TE record. Engram set a new Tight End franchise record with 963 receiving yards, breaking his own record that he set in 2022.

Engram final 5 games of 2023:
*Receptions - 41
*Yards - 357
*TD - 3

Foyesade Oluokun finished the 2023 season with 1 more solo tackle than Franklin, but Franklin finished the season with more total tackles. Congratulations to Foye for another monster season, and for scoring his first TD. 

Oluokun last 3 seasons - 338 solo tackles, which leads all players in the NFL. 

Josh Allen should have 18.5 sacks but with that bogus penalty, he will wrap up his season with 17.5 sacks and he added an interception. It was by far the best defensive season in franchise history. 

Off the top of my head: Allen, Henderson, Stroud, Campbell, and Ramsey are the only defensive players in franchise history to have 2 or more pro bowl selections. 

Walker got his 10th sack of the season, which marks just a handful of times the Jaguars have had 2 players with double digit sacks. 

Ridley got his 1,000 yards and scored 8 TDs, which lead the team in both categories. If Kirk stayed healthy, I believe both WRs would have eclipsed the 1k mark which would have been just the 3rd set of receivers to have 1,000 receiving yards in the same season (Smith/McCardell, and Hurns/Robinson)

Etienne finished the season with 1,008 yards rushing with 13 TDs. It’s the 3rd time in franchise history that a RB had back to back 1,000 yard seasons. (Taylor and Jones-Drew) Etienne is only the 4th RB in franchise history to have 10 or more rushing TDs in a single season. (Stewart, Taylor, Jones-Drew)

Cisco finished with 4 ints, which is the most by a Jaguars safety since Darius had 5, 19 years ago in 2004. Cisco’s 4 interceptions ties him with Sammy Knight also had 4 in 2007, for the 2nd most interceptions in a single season by a safety. 

The Jaguars finished the season with more wins than losses for the 2nd season in a row.

Coach Pederson joins Del Rio and Coughlin as the only coaches in team history to have back to back winning seasons. Coughlin had 4 in a row, Del Rio had 2 in a row, Pederson now has 2 in a row.

We missed the playoffs, maybe it was the holding call against Arden Key that called the Etienne TD back. We would have still had to convert the 2 point conversion and hope to win in overtime. Or maybe Trevor just didn’t jump far enough on the sneak. However you want to look at it is fine, BUT as a life long Jaguars fan, it’s nice to be a winning franchise again. I’m enjoying it while it last, because those 1-15 seasons ain’t too far in our past. 

Let’s hit the draft and sure up the lines of scrimmage, get the guys healthy, and see what we can do in free agency and gear up for 2024.

Lawrence gutted it out for this franchise all season. That was a dime piece he threw to Ridley. Bortles, Garrard, Jabbert, can’t make those types of throws. 

The culture is right. Let’s move some pieces around and get back at it next season.
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#2

2023 Davon Hamilton:

Solo - 4
TFL - 1
Everything else - 0
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#3

This is where my head is at as well, no point in being negative. We get a better draft pick, we weren’t going anywhere in the playoffs anyways. Trevor was broken despite a lot of these know it alls on here that will attack you if you say the obvious. I think he rebounds and is much better next year IF they fix protection and get him a running game. Some time away will do him well.

Despite how bad it’s looked over the last month+, I think it can be fixed in an offseason if they figure out a way to make some good decisions. Big if. Interior O and D line help and fix the running g game and this is a completely different looking team. We have lots of good pieces. Game of inches showed up big time this year along with the head scratching mistakes that really reek of trying to overcome deficiencies. Next year will be a good year. All those temper tantrums being thrown, y’all enjoy that, what’s it accomplishing?

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#4

(01-08-2024, 06:39 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: 2023 Davon Hamilton:

Solo - 4
TFL - 1
Everything else - 0

Career and life threatening illness - 1
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#5

Here's a notable stat for you:

8 - 3 start
9 - 8 finish
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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."
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#6

Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!
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#7

(01-08-2024, 10:20 AM)VondyP Wrote: Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!

Wow, all the cretins are crawling out of their spider holes.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#8

(01-08-2024, 10:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-08-2024, 10:20 AM)VondyP Wrote: Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!

Wow, all the cretins are crawling out of their spider holes.

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#9

(01-08-2024, 10:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-08-2024, 10:20 AM)VondyP Wrote: Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!

Wow, all the cretins are crawling out of their spider holes.

They've been waiting for months for this opportunity.
IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS
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#10

(01-08-2024, 11:04 AM)imtheblkranger Wrote:
(01-08-2024, 10:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Wow, all the cretins are crawling out of their spider holes.

They've been waiting for months for this opportunity.

And we richly deserve it.
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#11

(01-08-2024, 10:20 AM)VondyP Wrote: Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!

He's slightly better than Blake Bortles.
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#12

(01-08-2024, 10:20 AM)VondyP Wrote: Here's a great stat for you jagrags!

Trevor Lawrence's first 3 years in Jax:
-- 69 TDs, 60 TOs in 50 starts.
-- 11,490 yards passing, 954 yards rushing.
-- 20-30 record.

Blake Bortles' first 3 years in Jax:
-- 75 TDs, 63 TOs in 45 starts.
-- 11,241 yards passing, 1,088 yards rushing.
-- 11-34 record.

hope you guys pay him big! cheers!

Joe Montana had a passer rating of 95.6 with 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in 23 games in the playoffs in his career.

Sometimes stats are a bit misleading ...
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#13

Here's a fun stat

T Law first 3 seasons: 58 TDs
Blake Bortles first 3 seasons: 69 TDs

Trevor: 33 fumbles
Boat: 26 fumbles
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#14
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2024, 11:44 AM by Jaguarmeister. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-08-2024, 11:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Here's a fun stat

T Law first 3 seasons: 58 TDs
Blake Bortles first 3 seasons: 69 TDs

Trevor: 33 fumbles
Boat: 26 fumbles

Yeah the fumbles have been an issue, but Bortles was way more careless with the ball through the air and his completion percentage was under 60% for his career.  A comparison of years 2 and 3 for both tells a different story. And of course watching the two play and understanding context helps immensely. Bortles routinely threw picks on our own side of the field. That's not been a consistent theme with Trevor. He's generally been careful with the ball in the air though that changed a bit after the high ankle sprain.
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(This post was last modified: 01-08-2024, 11:49 AM by ChrisJagBoy. Edited 1 time in total.)

(01-08-2024, 11:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(01-08-2024, 11:18 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Here's a fun stat

T Law first 3 seasons: 58 TDs
Blake Bortles first 3 seasons: 69 TDs

Trevor: 33 fumbles
Boat: 26 fumbles

Yeah the fumbles have been an issue, but Bortles was way more careless with the ball through the air and his completion percentage was under 60% for his career.  A comparison of years 2 and 3 for both tells a different story.  And of course watching the two play and understanding context helps immensely.  Bortles routinely threw picks on our own side of the field.  That's not been a consistent theme with Trevor. He's generally been careful with the ball in the air though that changed a bit after the high ankle sprain.


Bortles years 2 and 3: 58 TDs 34 INTs 11 Fumbles (45 tuyrnovers)
Lawrence years 2 and 3: 46 TDs 22 INTS 22 Fumbles ( 44 turnovers )



Does it tho..
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#16

Here's a fun stat:

Trevor Lawrence completion percentage;
Year 1 - 59.6%
Year 2 - 66.3%
Year 3 - 65.6%

Blake Bortles completion percentage:
Year 1 - 58.9%
Year 2 - 58.6%
Year 3 - 58.9%

More fun stats:

Trevor Lawrence YPA:
Year 1 - 6.0
Year 2 - 7.0
Year 3 - 7.1

Bortles YPA:
Year 1 - 6.1
Year 2 - 7.3
Year 3 - 6.2

And perhaps most importantly:

Lawrence's first 3 years: 20-30-0 (With Urban Disaster as coach during one of those years, following a season where we went 1-15) with 1 playoff win
Bortles first 3 years: 11-34-0 with 0 playoff wins.

Let's not forget in Bortles 5th year, after he won a playoff game, he had a top 5 defense in both yards and points, and we still won only 5 games. Meanwhile, Trevor Has the 17th ranked defense and still won almost twice that.
I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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(01-08-2024, 11:49 AM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: Here's a fun stat:

Trevor Lawrence completion percentage;
Year 1 - 59.6%
Year 2 - 66.3%
Year 3 - 65.6%

Blake Bortles completion percentage:
Year 1 - 58.9%
Year 2 - 58.6%
Year 3 - 58.9%

More fun stats:

Trevor Lawrence YPA:
Year 1 - 6.0
Year 2 - 7.0
Year 3 - 7.1

Bortles YPA:
Year 1 - 6.1
Year 2 - 7.3
Year 3 - 6.2

And perhaps most importantly:

Lawrence's first 3 years: 20-30-0 (With Urban Disaster as coach during one of those years, following a season where we went 1-15) with 1 playoff win
Bortles first 3 years: 11-34-0 with 0 playoff wins.

Let's not forget in Bortles 5th year, after he won a playoff game, he had a top 5 defense in both yards and points, and we still won only 5 games. Meanwhile, Trevor Has the 17th ranked defense and still won almost twice that.

Lol Trevor has Ridley/Kirk/Zay/Engram

Bortles had AR for a single season, Allen hurns and.. who else?


Also Doug P's system is RPO heavy a lot of screens/short passes gonna contribute to a higher cmp pct.
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#18

As bad as this offensive line did Trevor, it's even worse for Travis ETN. 4th in carries but 11th in yards. 1st in broken tackles but 29 tackles for loss. 4 games with an average of 2.9 per carry or less. He finished the year with zero fumbles, a huge improvement on the major concern from last year. The line just did the guy no favors and he paid the price for it.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(01-08-2024, 11:53 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: As bad as this offensive line did Trevor, it's even worse for Travis ETN. 4th in carries but 11th in yards. 1st in broken tackles but 29 tackles for loss. 4 games with an average of 2.9 per carry or less. He finished the year with zero fumbles, a huge improvement on the major concern from last year. The line just did the guy no favors and he paid the price for it.

This I agree with 100%, ETN was a monster last year averaging like 5 YPC almost all season. The runblocking fell off a cliff this season.
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#20

(01-08-2024, 11:54 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:
(01-08-2024, 11:53 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: As bad as this offensive line did Trevor, it's even worse for Travis ETN. 4th in carries but 11th in yards. 1st in broken tackles but 29 tackles for loss. 4 games with an average of 2.9 per carry or less. He finished the year with zero fumbles, a huge improvement on the major concern from last year. The line just did the guy no favors and he paid the price for it.

This I agree with 100%, ETN was a monster last year averaging like 5 YPC almost all season. The runblocking fell off a cliff this season.

He had the same number of yards before contact as Derrick Henry (2.2) but broke more tackles than him. He really is a great player being wasted by a crap line. That's the issue with 1st round RBs though, they need help and bad teams don't usually have it for them in time to make it work.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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