(02-02-2024, 11:42 AM)Khan Artist Wrote:

(02-02-2024, 10:46 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: The NINERS???

What the [BLEEP] do the niners have to do with our situation??? Seriously! 

Harbaugh??? 

Are we comparing Pederson to Harbaugh???? Really?? 

I'm just giving honest perspective here and it doesn't suit your bias.
 We have zero evidence that there is anything going on between Khan/Baalke/Pederson that in any way resembles the popular interpretations of what happened in SF many years ago. 

Since Baalke arrived in Jax - he has made good moves, and he has made bad moves. 
The results have been much more positive than negative in the W/L column despite the doom and gloom you are stuck in. 
That is a factual statement. 

Baalke is on par with a dozen other middling managers around the league IMO, I don't really care if you all run him out of town. I just prefer to have a clear head about it instead of jumping on the tar and feather bandwagon due to bad information.

The 49ers of the past have a whole hell of a lot to do with our current situation when the same patterns begin to emerge.  And they are, whether or not you choose to accept it.  We were all pretty surprised when Baalke got a job here given his tenure there, and even more surprised when he was grandfathered the GM job after Caldwell was canned.  

I can't see it through my bias?  My bias is that I want the Jags to be good.  I am tired of being a laughingstock for the last 25ish years.  Everyone pretty much agreed that Baalke needed oversight and yet he managed to wriggle his way out of Khan hiring an EVP.  He drafted like we're a complete team, trading down excessively and then [BLEEP] himself by not being able to trade back up with his 30 sixth rounders.  The only thing worse than how he managed last year's draft is how arrogant and unlikeable he is.

I appreciate that you're trying to take a balanced perspective, but such a perspective requires ignoring the writing on the wall.  We'll see if Baalke manages to maneuver the cap hell he's created for us while fixing the OL and DL issues.  He's not off to a great start so far by pissing off Josh Allen.  But here's hoping.

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You have something that states he has pissed off Josh Allen? 

Share it.

That's another garbage narrative that folks have latched on to. 

Some media guy quoted Baalke out of context and got a tweet in response supposedly from someone connected to Allen who understandably took the out of context tweet out of context. 

The man said 7 times Josh Allen will be a Jaguar and he's raved about his play. That's just ridiculous. 
There's five weeks before the tag deadline and the most likely outcome is a tag and a negotiation of a big contract just like we saw last year with Engram. 

If you think they are "off to a bad start" you are buying into some bull [BLEEP]

And - no - I'm not lumping a completely different situation in SF into my judgment of Baalke since he's been here. 
I have plenty to go on that is actually relevant to what is happening. We don't know the actual dynamics of owner/GM/HC all those years ago in SF. We just have 5 different versions of outsider speculation. And it involved a loose cannon in Harbaugh. 

We have a little bit more info to work with here and I'll run with that.

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