Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

What do I defend and justify today that you are referring to?  Give some examples.

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Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

What do I defend and justify today that you are referring to?  Give some examples.

What is this:

Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

At the very least, it's a rationalization of something very, very broken. You are an enabler. Doesn't matter if you defend it or not.

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What do I defend and justify today that you are referring to?  Give some examples.

What is this:

Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

At the very least, it's a rationalization of something very, very broken. You are an enabler. Doesn't matter if you defend it or not.

He said, "The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable."  I was asking for some examples.  I'm not arguing with him, or saying he can't provide examples.  I just wanted some elaboration.  What am I defending and justifying today that 50 years ago would have been considered unacceptable?  

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The immoral things Marty defends? Is he the one defending a President who has been divorced twice and cheated on his then-pregnant third wife with a porn star?

Two things, the “you” wasn’t directed at Marty, more self inflection for all to consider.  I could have phrased it better.  Second, not everything is about Trump.  You have to get that man out of your head.

Get him off the Republican ticket and I'll get him out of my head in a jiffy.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

What is this:


At the very least, it's a rationalization of something very, very broken. You are an enabler. Doesn't matter if you defend it or not.

He said, "The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable."  I was asking for some examples.  I'm not arguing with him, or saying he can't provide examples.  I just wanted some elaboration.  What am I defending and justifying today that 50 years ago would have been considered unacceptable?  

As I stated, it wasn’t directed at you, just poorly worded.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Two things, the “you” wasn’t directed at Marty, more self inflection for all to consider.  I could have phrased it better.  Second, not everything is about Trump.  You have to get that man out of your head.

Get him off the Republican ticket and I'll get him out of my head in a jiffy.

It's supposedly your party, why don't you get him off the ticket? Oh, because the real Republicans want to win while you and your running buddies just want to "play nice."

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Every government and every society in all of human history has had some level of corruption.  Any student of history knows this.  And any student of history knows that our society and government is no more corrupt now than it has been in the past. 

Governments are run by human beings, with all their inherent weaknesses.  No party or faction has a monopoly on greed and dishonesty.  It's just something we have to deal with.  It will never stop.  Make laws and try to enforce them.  That's all you can do.

Do powerful people have a "globalist agenda?"  It depends on your definition of globalist agenda.  A lot of powerful people believe in free trade, because they are capitalists, and they believe, with a lot of justification, that free trade is not only good for them, but good for everyone in general.

Morality kept the inherent weakness of man in check.  As society has continued to redefine what is moral and just corruption itself has been redefined.  The very things you defend and justify today, 50 years ago would be considered unacceptable.

This is a true statement in general. 

In this case the more society accepts bad behavior in general the more it desensitizes us to how these folks act who are appointed to these positions. 

In a world where television shows like the Real Housewives of Whatever, anything the Kardashians are in, etc., are high ratings shows this mentality. And that's just one form of entertainment, not real life where it's just as bad.

As for the subject of bribery, no matter the candidate if you don't think it's wrong.....

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If bribery were allowed...

Then you could take the money and not do it.

Then there's no possibility of blackmail because bribery is legal but with a morality caveat... you can give them money but they are under no obligation to do it.

Yea I know not feasible lol

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How 'bout you let me know when Kari [BLEEP] Lake is coming to "get rid of me" 

LOLOLOLOL

Your words, not mine. Total joke.

Meanwhile, you ilkish clowns want to get rid of people who don't accept bribes..

Par the course of the 'people' who [BLEEP] this country up in the first place..

Got your nose, Bozo.

First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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Right - how are you going to "get rid of" 90 million Americans that vote or think like me? 

Such a stupid [BLEEP] statement. All this ignorant bluster from dip [BLEEP] who think they are going to start some redneck revolution. Please... 

She's a crappy TV personality turned crappy candidate who clearly can't win anyway. 
Someone wants to pay her off to stay out of the way. 
Big whoop.

"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

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Meanwhile, you ilkish clowns want to get rid of people who don't accept bribes..

Par the course of the 'people' who [BLEEP] this country up in the first place..

Got your nose, Bozo.

First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That's your uninformed opinion and you're entitled to it.. But no matter what opinion you form, you'll always be a clown and a panty waste for putting party over country. You're like dog [BLEEP] on the bottom of someone's shoe. Worth nothing..

Bookmark this one too!!

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First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That's your uninformed opinion and you're entitled to it.. But no matter what opinion you form, you'll always be a clown and a panty waste for putting party over country. You're like dog [BLEEP] on the bottom of someone's shoe. Worth nothing..

Bookmark this one too!!

LOL

Party over country?
The [BLEEP] are you even talking about? 

And you call me uninformed. I don't give a [BLEEP] about party.

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That's your uninformed opinion and you're entitled to it.. But no matter what opinion you form, you'll always be a clown and a panty waste for putting party over country. You're like dog [BLEEP] on the bottom of someone's shoe. Worth nothing..

Bookmark this one too!!

LOL

Party over country?
The [BLEEP] are you even talking about? 

And you call me uninformed. I don't give a [BLEEP] about party.

[BLEEP].. You're nothing but a liberal stooge who hates anything associated with Trump, regardless if it was good for the country or not..

Worthless..

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LOL

Party over country?
The [BLEEP] are you even talking about? 

And you call me uninformed. I don't give a [BLEEP] about party.

[BLEEP].. You're nothing but a liberal stooge who hates anything associated with Trump, regardless if it was good for the country or not..

Worthless..

It must suck for you that progressive minded folks like me outnumber your ridiculous trump-cult by millions and millions. 

You are squarely in the minority. 

And you are there for a reason. 

Your ideology (what little you have left)  is going the way of the dinosaur - and with each generation the gap gets wider as progressive thinkers grow faster in number than conservatives. 

You may as well get accustomed to being triggered by my posts because my way of thinking will continue to become the overwhelming reality that surrounds you.

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[BLEEP].. You're nothing but a liberal stooge who hates anything associated with Trump, regardless if it was good for the country or not..

Worthless..

It must suck for you that progressive minded folks like me outnumber your ridiculous trump-cult by millions and millions. 

You are squarely in the minority. 

And you are there for a reason. 

Your ideology (what little you have left)  is going the way of the dinosaur - and with each generation the gap gets wider as progressive thinkers grow faster in number than conservatives. 

You may as well get accustomed to being triggered by my posts because my way of thinking will continue to become the overwhelming reality that surrounds you.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah..

Don't care, didn't read because everything out of your mouth is self entitled, self centered libtarded [BLEEP].. Which is what you also have between your ears.

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Meanwhile, you ilkish clowns want to get rid of people who don't accept bribes..

Par the course of the 'people' who [BLEEP] this country up in the first place..

Got your nose, Bozo.

First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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"Just who do those bloody colonials think they are? Don't they know that the British Empire is the foremost power around the globe?" - NYC circa 1776

Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

Shows he doesn't know anyone in the military

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That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

Shows he doesn't know anyone in the military

I'm from Jacksonville because the half of my damn family is military

What a presumptive dumb [BLEEP] you are

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First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

Good luck with basing your civil war on that hunch

It would only take 1/100th of the US military's nearest assets to quash whatever it is the bunker building militia nuts think they are cooking up - and in no time at all

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First of all - I don't want to "get rid of" anybody.

That's your ridiculous bull [BLEEP]. 

Secondly - wishing her out of politics has nothing to do with her trying to use a bribery attempt to prop up her weak campaign.

I'd prefer she give up after her next loss because she's just a moron with terrible policy. Which has always been the case. She's just dumb [BLEEP] MTG or Boebert with a slightly more acceptable demeanor due to her broadcast background. 

But please - let me know when you and Kari Lake are going to get rid of me. I want to be ready, LOL.

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Right - we live in colonial times and have no modern US military machine to quell uprisings. You really nailed it. 
Perfect comparison. 

The civil war crowd are going to have the worst "find out" phase of any  "[BLEEP] around and find out" attempt on the face of our planet in all of its history. If they are really dumb enough.

That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

Yeah I don't think there's a path from "I place razor wire" and "No I remove razor wire" to "hey stop I will shoot you" and "no I shoot you first."

This is mostly theater and bluster about if Article 2 of the US constitution actually means what it says.  There is zero will to follow through on any relevant level.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Shows he doesn't know anyone in the military

I'm from Jacksonville because the half of my damn family is military

What a presumptive dumb [BLEEP] you are

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That "modern US military machine" is going to throw a cog when half the rank and file walk off the job. I know you don't accept that result, but when states like Texas are the targets it's unlikely that the troops will just go along with orders to go kill them. They know they can't win and "I was just following orders" went out with Nuremberg.

Good luck with basing your civil war on that hunch

It would only take 1/100th of the US military's nearest assets to quash whatever it is the bunker building militia nuts think they are cooking up - and in no time at all

Why wait? The elites already have the tacit support of our "educated" class. What Trump says about his base is doubly true for the establishment. It's been shown time and time again. The only time our lemming moderates can get upset is when something is rolled out in front of their TV screens.

Civil war talk is stupid, regardless.

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Welp, this went heavy.

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