We are staring at Week 10, 9 more weeks and 8 games left of this season. It's been a terrible season. Disappointing, frustrating, surprising. I don't think anyone saw us bring here after week 9. And that leads to the question. What do we try and do for these last 8 games? 

Just for the record, these are the remaining games 

Vikings
@Lions
Tinhorns 
@T*tans
Jets
@Raiders
T*tans
@Colts

So my question is what should be our aim for these games. Try and win as many as possible and get some confidence and finding things to build on for next season? Start to play some depth and rookies to start seeing what we have on the roster in competitive games? Are we starting to think draft spots?

If we won 5-6 of these last games, would that change anything about how you feel about this season (I'm not talking saving Doug or Baalkes jobs).

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Nope. Wouldn't change a thing for me. It would be similar to last year, just backwards.

The consistent inconsistency and the injuries are mind numbing. I am ready for 2025 already to be honest with you.

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This thread is worthy of some background music.

https://youtu.be/kM5YwHdASEM?si=8bX23W1XLbsrEO0C

Appreciate it. What would be your soundtrack to the season could be a much more funnier and depressing thread!!

https://youtu.be/1bVOYLXqBOk?si=tOLa27dOEidTOVZ0

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I’d like to win as many as possible and would honestly feel a little better if we show some talent flashes in those games. I’d be perfectly fine with losing but Trevor and BTJ cooking the rest of the year.

My concern with winning the “easy” games is Khan seeing a strong late season performance as “Doug got it figured out” and keep everyone.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

Nope. Wouldn't change a thing for me. It would be similar to last year, just backwards.

The consistent inconsistency and the injuries are mind numbing. I am ready for 2025 already to be honest with you.

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Appreciate it. What would be your soundtrack to the season could be a much more funnier and depressing thread!!

https://youtu.be/1bVOYLXqBOk?si=tOLa27dOEidTOVZ0

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I get that. The last 5 all look very winnable and if we sneak one of the other 3, with a lot of luck we could end 8-9 which would look a solid recovery but it would be fools gold. 

Its been a crazy season and not in a good way. Not seen so many experts baffled by a team for a while.

And love the song choice! I would ask what the anchor is but it feels like everything!

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I’d like to win as many as possible and would honestly feel a little better if we show some talent flashes in those games. I’d be perfectly fine with losing but Trevor and BTJ cooking the rest of the year.

My concern with winning the “easy” games is Khan seeing a strong late season performance as “Doug got it figured out” and keep everyone.

As I just posted, there's a way we could not unrealistically end up with 6-7 wins. You fear that could be a 'we just started to figure things out' argument but it would be hollow to me.

I never want to see us tank, don't like watching us hoping we lose but I'd like to see the effort in the 2nd half for the rest of the season at least. Effort is one thing we can control.

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I’d like to win as many as possible and would honestly feel a little better if we show some talent flashes in those games. I’d be perfectly fine with losing but Trevor and BTJ cooking the rest of the year.

My concern with winning the “easy” games is Khan seeing a strong late season performance as “Doug got it figured out” and keep everyone.

I'd honestly be more worried that it becomes "evidence" Baalke uses to say the talent is there but the coaches are bad so that Trent ends up staying around.

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I’d like to win as many as possible and would honestly feel a little better if we show some talent flashes in those games. I’d be perfectly fine with losing but Trevor and BTJ cooking the rest of the year.

My concern with winning the “easy” games is Khan seeing a strong late season performance as “Doug got it figured out” and keep everyone.

I just can't see it with the amount of injuries piling up now and with the schedule getting tougher. We'll be 2 - 10 after a home loss to Houston in December. Can't wait to be there live for the disappointment.

Tempted to dress up like The Dude from the Big Lebowski and ask for white russians. My wife and mother in law would [BLEEP] themselves. I know my sister in law's boyfriend would dig it though. LOL.

We'll see. Just going to enjoy what's left of 2024. At this point man, to be brutally honest? I just want the following players fully healthy and ready to go for training camp in 2025 more than anything.

Offense:
1. Trevor Lawrence
2. Tank Bigsby
3. Brian Thomas Jr.
4. Anton Harrison
5. Ezra Cleveland
6. Mitch Morse
7. Evan Engram
8. Parker Washington
9. Brenton Strange

Defense:
1. Travon Walker
2. Foyesayde Oluokon
3. Joshua Hines-Allen
4. Tyson Campbell
5. Ventrell Miller
6. Jarrian Jones
7. Maason Smith
8. Montaric Brown
9. Andrew Wingard

Then obviously the long snapper, kicker and punter and a few other guys I guess.

Time to reset I fear. Should expect Etienne and Kirk to be on the trading block early next year when the window is allowed.



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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Nope. Wouldn't change a thing for me. It would be similar to last year, just backwards.

The consistent inconsistency and the injuries are mind numbing. I am ready for 2025 already to be honest with you.

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I get that. The last 5 all look very winnable and if we sneak one of the other 3, with a lot of luck we could end 8-9 which would look a solid recovery but it would be fools gold. 

Its been a crazy season and not in a good way. Not seen so many experts baffled by a team for a while.

And love the song choice! I would ask what the anchor is but it feels like everything!

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I’d like to win as many as possible and would honestly feel a little better if we show some talent flashes in those games. I’d be perfectly fine with losing but Trevor and BTJ cooking the rest of the year.

My concern with winning the “easy” games is Khan seeing a strong late season performance as “Doug got it figured out” and keep everyone.

As I just posted, there's a way we could not unrealistically end up with 6-7 wins. You fear that could be a 'we just started to figure things out' argument but it would be hollow to me.

I never want to see us tank, don't like watching us hoping we lose but I'd like to see the effort in the 2nd half for the rest of the season at least. Effort is one thing we can control.

It would be hollow to you, and us fans. But Shad? Idk. And that’s where the fear comes in.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

I was over my irritated mood (gross understatement) this morning and instead thankful I was not sitting in Shad Kahn's chair.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

I get that. The last 5 all look very winnable and if we sneak one of the other 3, with a lot of luck we could end 8-9 which would look a solid recovery but it would be fools gold. 

Its been a crazy season and not in a good way. Not seen so many experts baffled by a team for a while.

And love the song choice! I would ask what the anchor is but it feels like everything!

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As I just posted, there's a way we could not unrealistically end up with 6-7 wins. You fear that could be a 'we just started to figure things out' argument but it would be hollow to me.

I never want to see us tank, don't like watching us hoping we lose but I'd like to see the effort in the 2nd half for the rest of the season at least. Effort is one thing we can control.

It would be hollow to you, and us fans. But Shad? Idk. And that’s where the fear comes in.

That's the million dollar question I guess isn't it. Does Shad ignore the first 13 weeks of the season and act like the last 5 are a true reflection?  He's so desperate to find his GM and HC for the next 10 years and has tried again and again and it just doesn't work. I just can't see a way everyone stays. I fear he doesn't want to go HC hunting again so to quote Mike from Breaking Bad 'he took a half measure when he should have gone all the way'.

This is the time he should be working behind the scenes to see what's available and who's interested and have a plan ready to go from Black Monday.

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I was over my irritated mood (gross understatement) this morning and instead thankful I was not sitting in Shad Kahn's chair.

I do get that. Us fans have all the answers and all the solutions. But we're not playing with the live ammo. NFL careers are short for players and coaches and one bad year can be enough. We all have GM's, HC's and players we like and want to bring in but there's no guarantee we're right. I know Shad has tried. You can't fault his effort but he's just not got the results, and in the odd times he has (2017, 2022) it has soured very quickly and it's back to the drawing board.

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I get that. The last 5 all look very winnable and if we sneak one of the other 3, with a lot of luck we could end 8-9 which would look a solid recovery but it would be fools gold. 

Its been a crazy season and not in a good way. Not seen so many experts baffled by a team for a while.

And love the song choice! I would ask what the anchor is but it feels like everything!

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As I just posted, there's a way we could not unrealistically end up with 6-7 wins. You fear that could be a 'we just started to figure things out' argument but it would be hollow to me.

I never want to see us tank, don't like watching us hoping we lose but I'd like to see the effort in the 2nd half for the rest of the season at least. Effort is one thing we can control.

It would be hollow to you, and us fans. But Shad? Idk. And that’s where the fear comes in.

I posed this question before, but if you fire Doug and put someone like McCoy in his place and he has success down the stretch which is entirely possible, are you ok with him being a serious candidate for the job moving forward?  It would be difficult for any owner to fire an interim coach at the end of the season that goes 5-1 or 6-0 over the stretch where they are the head coach.  I don't think most would be all that happy with McCoy, but maybe that sentiment changes if he indeed gets the opportunity and does go 5-1 or 6-0.

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8-9, 6 game win streak to end the year.

Message Board is devastated.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It would be hollow to you, and us fans. But Shad? Idk. And that’s where the fear comes in.

I posed this question before, but if you fire Doug and put someone like McCoy in his place and he has success down the stretch which is entirely possible, are you ok with him being a serious candidate for the job moving forward?  It would be difficult for any owner to fire an interim coach at the end of the season that goes 5-1 or 6-0 over the stretch where they are the head coach.  I don't think most would be all that happy with McCoy, but maybe that sentiment changes if he indeed gets the opportunity and does go 5-1 or 6-0.

That's an interesting point and especially if you can't get the HC's your after and are scrambling. Just looking at the standings, 11 teams have 2-3 wins so far. That seems crazy high but just to show

Jets 3-6
Miami 2-6
Patriots 2-7
Browns 2-7
Jags 2-7
T*tans 2-7
Raiders 2-7
Cowboys 3-5
Giants 2-7
Panthers 2-7
Saints 2-7

There could be a lot of teams looking for new HC's this offseason then there's teams like the Bengals and Bears who are in the last chance saloon. I don't want McCoy and don't want to be in a spot where he may get the job by default. The way our luck is we'd probably fire Doug, not get our top 5 targets then rehire him a week later.

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8-9, 6 game win streak to end the year.

Message Board is devastated.

Find a way to beat Lions or Vikings and it would be 3 9-8 seasons in a row.

That's how fine the margins can be.

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(This assumes that the GM and Coaching Staff are fired.)

My recommendation would be to tank to maintain the #2 draft spot, and likely move up to #1 with a Patriots win. The #1 pick should help attract the best GM who wants to shape the team and hopefully comes in with a list of HC candidates that fits his preferred scheme.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

We are staring at Week 10, 9 more weeks and 8 games left of this season. It's been a terrible season. Disappointing, frustrating, surprising. I don't think anyone saw us bring here after week 9. And that leads to the question. What do we try and do for these last 8 games? 

Just for the record, these are the remaining games 

Vikings
@Lions
Tinhorns 
@T*tans
Jets
@Raiders
T*tans
@Colts

So my question is what should be our aim for these games. Try and win as many as possible and get some confidence and finding things to build on for next season? Start to play some depth and rookies to start seeing what we have on the roster in competitive games? Are we starting to think draft spots?

If we won 5-6 of these last games, would that change anything about how you feel about this season (I'm not talking saving Doug or Baalkes jobs).

7-1 baby here we come.

The loss would vs the lions.

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I posed this question before, but if you fire Doug and put someone like McCoy in his place and he has success down the stretch which is entirely possible, are you ok with him being a serious candidate for the job moving forward?  It would be difficult for any owner to fire an interim coach at the end of the season that goes 5-1 or 6-0 over the stretch where they are the head coach.  I don't think most would be all that happy with McCoy, but maybe that sentiment changes if he indeed gets the opportunity and does go 5-1 or 6-0.

That's an interesting point and especially if you can't get the HC's your after and are scrambling. Just looking at the standings, 11 teams have 2-3 wins so far. That seems crazy high but just to show

Jets 3-6
Miami 2-6
Patriots 2-7
Browns 2-7
Jags 2-7
T*tans 2-7
Raiders 2-7
Cowboys 3-5
Giants 2-7
Panthers 2-7
Saints 2-7

There could be a lot of teams looking for new HC's this offseason then there's teams like the Bengals and Bears who are in the last chance saloon. I don't want McCoy and don't want to be in a spot where he may get the job by default. The way our luck is we'd probably fire Doug, not get our top 5 targets then rehire him a week later.

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8-9, 6 game win streak to end the year.

Message Board is devastated.

Find a way to beat Lions or Vikings and it would be 3 9-8 seasons in a row.

That's how fine the margins can be.

Good point. There's going to be some competition this offseason.

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On the road again

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That's an interesting point and especially if you can't get the HC's your after and are scrambling. Just looking at the standings, 11 teams have 2-3 wins so far. That seems crazy high but just to show

Jets 3-6
Miami 2-6
Patriots 2-7
Browns 2-7
Jags 2-7
T*tans 2-7
Raiders 2-7
Cowboys 3-5
Giants 2-7
Panthers 2-7
Saints 2-7

There could be a lot of teams looking for new HC's this offseason then there's teams like the Bengals and Bears who are in the last chance saloon. I don't want McCoy and don't want to be in a spot where he may get the job by default. The way our luck is we'd probably fire Doug, not get our top 5 targets then rehire him a week later.

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Find a way to beat Lions or Vikings and it would be 3 9-8 seasons in a row.

That's how fine the margins can be.

Good point. There's going to be some competition this offseason.

Exactly. We already know the Jets and Saints will be in the market. I expect Dallas, Cleveland, Raiders to be available and a few of the other teams are very likely. There's a lot of factors that a HC will use to decide, and not all football related. If Shad has decided to move on from Doug, I hope he is working on his shortlist as some team is going to be left standing with the top choices all gone.

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We are staring at Week 10, 9 more weeks and 8 games left of this season. It's been a terrible season. Disappointing, frustrating, surprising. I don't think anyone saw us bring here after week 9. And that leads to the question. What do we try and do for these last 8 games? 

Just for the record, these are the remaining games 

Vikings
@Lions
Tinhorns 
@T*tans
Jets
@Raiders
T*tans
@Colts

So my question is what should be our aim for these games. Try and win as many as possible and get some confidence and finding things to build on for next season? Start to play some depth and rookies to start seeing what we have on the roster in competitive games? Are we starting to think draft spots?

If we won 5-6 of these last games, would that change anything about how you feel about this season (I'm not talking saving Doug or Baalkes jobs).

7-1 baby here we come.

The loss would vs the lions.

That would be another 9-8 season.

And them chaos ensues.

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We're not going to win out or go 7-1 or 6-2.  Just not going to happen, especially with all of the injuries.  Much more likely that we end up winning 2 more games and finish 4-13, drafting right around the 5-8 spot or so.  

But for the sake of argument, say the team gets on fire - would I keep Pedersen and Baalke another season?  Absolutely not.  The body of evidence is there to evaluate this coaching staff and front office and know they aren't going to get you into a deep playoff run and win consistently.  Players are not progressing and the roster lacks talent.  

Baalke lucked into BTJ.  If he truly knew he was going to be as good as he's been so far this year, he would have never traded back with the Vikings.  The 2024 free agent class has been awful.

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