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***jagibelieve*** · 06-27-2016, 04:23 PM

Quote:Perhaps you're right. We won't know for a few more months.

But consider this, that fee press he was getting in the winter was all glowing and positive.

It's not that way for trump anymore. Cnn, which used to gush over trump and give Jeffery lorde and that one blonde hours of time just one on one with the cnn anchor no longer do that. Now, trump surrogates are on panels and are grilled, that's the top line.

Morning Joe, which was an absolute love fest for trump, now scrutinize him 80 percent and question him 20 percent. There's no more love there.

I think your point about the argument that he's not raising money is so interesting. As a liberal, the citizens United ruling is a huge issue for me, I'm interested in seeing if trump actually decided to not get funding... I have a feeling that this is just spin to give him an excuse for his terrible fund raising in May, but we'll see.

Lastly, your argument about the Clinton foundation, if it's the one I think you are referring to, has been debunked. But, whatever, most people already know that... that's why it's s non issue. Just like bengazi...

Hmm... liberals thinking that liberal press really "loved" Trump over the other presumptive nominees... I wonder why that is?

How exactly is scrutinizing a corrupt organization and/or an epic failure of Hillary while serving as Secretary of Defense and the deliberate cover-up a "non-issue"? I suppose her illegal and possibly damaging personal email server is also a "non-issue" to most of you liberals.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

***FBT*** · 06-27-2016, 05:00 PM

Quote:Perhaps you're right. We won't know for a few more months.

But consider this, that fee press he was getting in the winter was all glowing and positive.

It's not that way for trump anymore. Cnn, which used to gush over trump and give Jeffery lorde and that one blonde hours of time just one on one with the cnn anchor no longer do that. Now, trump surrogates are on panels and are grilled, that's the top line.

Morning Joe, which was an absolute love fest for trump, now scrutinize him 80 percent and question him 20 percent. There's no more love there.

I think your point about the argument that he's not raising money is so interesting. As a liberal, the citizens United ruling is a huge issue for me, I'm interested in seeing if trump actually decided to not get funding... I have a feeling that this is just spin to give him an excuse for his terrible fund raising in May, but we'll see.

Lastly, your argument about the Clinton foundation, if it's the one I think you are referring to, has been debunked. But, whatever, most people already know that... that's why it's s non issue. Just like bengazi...

He wasn't getting glowing free press over the past year. He was getting hammered by the leftist media with every utterance. The problem is, he understood how to deal with that better than most, and he turned their attempts to discredit him into a rallying cry for people to support his candidacy. In other words, their efforts to take Trump down failed miserably, and wound up being an asset to Trump. A badge of honor with the very mindset that saw Brexit happen last week. People are sick and tired of establishment politics, and clearly, that sentiment isn't just here in the US.

Trump is going to take the funding for the general election. He's made that clear, and that's fine.

As far as the Clinton foundation corruption being debunked, you're once again just spewing what you've been spoon fed, which is not really surprising. One person said it was debunked, so it had to be, right? Those are the talking points that you've been given to run with. The reality is that it will be an issue because the Clinton's have enriched themselves, and offered up unprecedented access during his presidency, her tenure as Secretary of State, and ultimately, if she becomes president to the highest bidder. There's no debunking that. It's been a fact for the past quarter century no matter how desperately you try to spin it otherwise. These people have made an art form out of being sleazy corrupt politicians.

As far as Benghazi is concerned, if you think 4 dead Americans is a non-issue, that tells me all I need to know about how deeply your head is buried up her posterior..

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 05:55 AM

FDRs legs were probably pretty bad

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 05:59 AM

I don't understand why people get so worked up over Bengasi then are perfectly capable over looking the fact the trump deliberately ripped off veterans. One was bad call then a cover up, the other was intentional and quite frankly evil.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

StroudCrowd1 · 06-30-2016, 08:22 AM

Quote:I don't understand why people get so worked up over Bengasi then are perfectly capable over looking the fact the trump deliberately ripped off veterans. One was bad call then a cover up, the other was intentional and quite frankly evil.

Who exactly did Trump rip off? He raised 5.6M for them. More mindless propaganda.

CHARITY NAVIGATOR FOUR-STAR RATING

America's Vet Dogs, the Veteran K-9 corps, Inc., Smithtown, N.Y. Annual revenues: $9.1 million. Trump donation: $75,000

AMVETS, Lanham, Md. Annual revenues: $30.4 million. Trump donation: $75,000

Armed Services YMCA of the U.S., Springfield, Va.. Annual revenues: $36.4 million.Trump donation: $75,000

Disabled American Veterans Charitable Service Trust, Cold Spring, Ky. Annual revenues: $8.1 million. Trump donation: $115,000

Fisher House Foundation, Rockville, Md., Annual revenues: $55.6 million. Trump donation: $115,000

Hire Heroes USA, Alpharetta, Ga. Annual revenues: $5.4 million. Trump donation: $75,000

Homes for Our Troops, Taunton, Mass. Annual revenues: $17.7 million. Trump donation: $50,000

Hope for The Warriors, Jacksonville, N.C. Annual revenues: $6 million. Trump donation: $65,000

Navy SEAL Foundation, Virginia Beach, Va. Annual revenues: $15.4 million.Trump donation: $465,000

Navy Marine Corps Relief Society, Arlington, Va. Annual revenues: $25 million.Trump donation: $75,000

Operation Homefront, San Antonio, Texas. Annual revenues: $62.2 million. Trump donation: $65,000

The Mission Continues, St. Louis, Mo. Annual revenues: $10.8 million. Trump donation: $75,000

Vietnam Veterans Workshop, Inc. (New England Center and Home for Veterans), Boston, Mass. Annual revenues: $11 million. Trump donation: $75,000

CHARITY NAVIGATOR THREE-STAR RATING

Achilles International, New York, N.Y. Annual revenues: $3.1 million. Trump donation: $200,000

Freedom Alliance, Dulles, Va. Annual revenues: $11 million. Trump donation: $75,000



The National Military Family Association, Inc., Alexandria, Va. Annual revenues: $3.9 million. Trump donation: $75,000

ELIGIBLE FOR CHARITY NAVIGATOR RATING BUT NOT YET RATED

Bob Woodruff Family Foundation, Inc., New York, N.Y. Annual revenues: $9.2 million. Trump donation: $75,000

Central Iowa Shelter and Services, Des Moines, Iowa. Annual revenues: $1.6 million.Trump donation: $100,000

Folds of Honor Foundation, Owasso, Okla. Annual revenues: $12.3 million. Trump donation: $200,000

Veterans Airlift Command, Minneapolis, Minn. Annual revenues: $5.6 million.Trump donation: $100,000

NOT YET ELIGIBLE TO BE RATED BY CHARITY NAVIGATOR

Green Beret Foundation, San Antonio, Texas. Annual revenues: $1.9 million.Trump donation: $350,000

K-9s for Warriors, Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. Annual revenues: $4.1 million. Trump donation: $50,000

Task Force Dagger Foundation, McKinney, Texas. Annual revenues: $1.1 million.Trump donation: $50,000

NOT REQUIRED TO FILE 990

22Kill, Dallas, Texas. Annual revenues: Not reported. Trump donation: $200,000.

American Hero Adventures, Eugene, Ore. Annual revenues: Not reported. Trump donation: $100,000

Americans for Independent Living: Cedar Falls, Iowa. Annual revenues: Not reported. Trump donation: $100,000

Honoring America's Warriors: El Reno, Okla. Annual revenues: Not reported.Trump donation: $100,000

Partners for Patriots: Sioux City, Iowa. Annual revenues: Not reported. Trump donation: $100,000

Support Siouxland Soldiers: Sioux City, Iowa. Annual revenues: $33,970. Trump donation: $100,000

Veterans in Command, Inc., Jamaica, N.Y. Annual revenues: Not reported. Trump donation: $150,000

TOO SMALL FOR CHARITY NAVIGATOR TO RATE

Connected Warriors, Inc., Boca Raton, Fla. Annual revenues: $179,401. Trump donation: $75,000

Liberty House, Manchester, N.H. Annual revenues: $276,474. Trump donation: $100,000

New England Wounded Veterans, Inc., Boston, Mass. Annual revenues: $202,289.Trump donation: $75,000

Puppy Jake Foundation: Des Moines, Iowa. Annual revenues: $289,340. Trump donation: $100,000

Racing for Heroes, Inc., Beech Creek, Pa. Annual revenues: $227,542. Trump donation: $200,000

Warriors for Freedom Foundation: Oklahoma City, Okla. Annual revenues: $459,622. Trump donation: $50,000

NOT RATED BY CHARITY NAVIGATOR DUE TO ATYPICAL BUSINESS MODEL

Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund, New York, N.Y. Annual revenues: $10.4 million.Trump donation: $175,000



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Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, Tuckahoe, N.Y. Annual revenues: $3 million. Trump donation: $1,100,000

STATUS UNCLEAR

Foundation for American Veterans: West Bloomfield, Mich. Annual revenues: $8 million. Trump donation: $75,000

Veterans Count (Easter Seals affiliate in Kansas, Maine, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Rhode Island and Vermont). Annual revenues: Not available.Trump donation: $25,000

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 03:16 PM

He ripped off so many veteran at his university that the government wouldn't let them use their GI bill to attend.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 03:19 PM

But I guess it's OK because he donated some of their stolen money back.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 03:32 PM

Mindless? Don't be such an oversensitive snow flake.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

StroudCrowd1 · 06-30-2016, 03:32 PM

Quote:He ripped off so many veteran at his university that the government wouldn't let them use their GI bill to attend.

Really? I'd be curious to know how many veterans attended TU. Do you have the numbers or just making assumptions?

FYI, there is an edit button so you can combine all of your thoughts into a single post.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 04:36 PM

There is an edit button. But didn't feel like it sorry if that offends you. I know how sensitive you are. As far as numbers go do it your self. I'm not the one who's going to vote for him you defend him.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

StroudCrowd1 · 06-30-2016, 04:39 PM

Quote:There is an edit button. But didn't feel like it sorry if that offends you. I know how sensitive you are. As far as numbers go do it your self it's I'm not the one who's going to vote for him you defend him.

I'm sorry, but I have a very hard time reading and understanding that sentence.

You have under 300 posts and choose to do the majority of your posting in a political forum on an NFL message board. That is weird.

I posted an entire list of donations Donald Trump made to Veterans and your only response is he donated some of their stolen money back. That ignorant comment indicates you think Trump made over 6.5 million dollars off of veterans at TU.

***FBT*** · 06-30-2016, 04:40 PM

Quote:There is an edit button. But didn't feel like it sorry if that offends you. I know how sensitive you are. As far as numbers go do it your self it's I'm not the one who's going to vote for him you defend him.

That's the smart way to play this. You don't have an answer, so just pass on making the allegation and not backing it up. Good call. You're one of those low information voters the democrats can rely upon to do your part.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

***FBT*** · 06-30-2016, 04:44 PM

Quote:I don't understand why people get so worked up over Bengasi then are perfectly capable over looking the fact the trump deliberately ripped off veterans. One was bad call then a cover up, the other was intentional and quite frankly evil.

Yeah, you're right. What's to get worked up over "Bengasi" anyway? I mean, the ambassador begged for additional security at the consulate, but was ignored by his boss. He and 3 other Americans were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, but that same boss blamed it on a Youtube video nobody had ever seen up to that point. What difference does it make that they were running a weapons pipeline through the consulate to arm al Qaeda and ISIS forces who were fighting in Syria against the Assad regime? I have no idea why people would even care about any of this stuff like letting 4 Americans die because of incompetence and corruption while arming our enemy. That's just a big non-issue right there.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

**flsprtsgod** · 06-30-2016, 05:08 PM

Quote:Yeah, you're right. What's to get worked up over "Bengasi" anyway? I mean, the ambassador begged for additional security at the consulate, but was ignored by his boss. He and 3 other Americans were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, but that same boss blamed it on a Youtube video nobody had ever seen up to that point. What difference does it make that they were running a weapons pipeline through the consulate to arm al Qaeda and ISIS forces who were fighting in Syria against the Assad regime? I have no idea why people would even care about any of this stuff like letting 4 Americans die because of incompetence and corruption while arming our enemy. That's just a big non-issue right there.

Bengasi - the secret service call sign for Hillary after a big speech or too much hot sauce.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

***FBT*** · 06-30-2016, 05:54 PM

Quote:Bengasi - the secret service call sign for Hillary after a big speech or too much hot sauce.

That's a double pantsuit day.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Dumptruck · 06-30-2016, 06:25 PM

Quote:That's a double pantsuit day.

If she leaned back, her scrot would flap like a turkey gobbler.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 07:19 PM

Didn't say it wasn't a big deal just n

o worse. If attacking makes you snow flakes feel better go for it. Far better to criticize other than accept our own short comings. The least I can do as a liberal is understand. It is kind of our mantra to understand.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 07:22 PM

It's going to be nice watching her stomp all over Donald with one of her heavy cankles though.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

jagsbum · 06-30-2016, 07:25 PM

FBT you are a turd. You have always been a turd. You always be a turd. You have never accomplished anything and never will. You sir are are a turd.

And cause I was a gazillionaire, and I liked doin it so much, I cut that grass for free.

MalabarJag · 06-30-2016, 07:29 PM

Quote:FBT you are a turd. You have always been a turd. You always be a turd. You have never accomplished anything and never will. You sir are are a turd.

There's your typical leftist for you.

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"