Who do you pick at #4 if Thomas, Garrett and Adams are gone? 

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For a fan who is going to be married to the team forever, it should come out of the Howard/Lattimore/Hooker grouping. 

 

For the front office who is either elderly or one or two more underperforming years from unemployment, it's probably Fournette.

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I want Malik hooker. We need that type in our secondary.

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For a fan who is going to be married to the team forever, it should come out of the Howard/Lattimore/Hooker grouping. 

 

For the front office who is either elderly or one or two more underperforming years from unemployment, it's probably Fournette.

 

I'm not a big Fournette fan.  I think he's good.  I'm just not sure if he's a "special talent" or not.  I'm leaning toward "not." 

 

But - for the life of me - I don't understand why you can't post in a draft thread without bad-mouthing the kid.  It's nearing unhealthy obsession level. 

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I'm not a big Fournette fan.  I think he's good.  I'm just not sure if he's a "special talent" or not.  I'm leaning toward "not." 

 

But - for the life of me - I don't understand why you can't post in a draft thread without bad-mouthing the kid.  It's nearing unhealthy obsession level. 

Hmm, saying Fournette is probably the option if you're desperate for short term instant impact is bad mouthing. Learn something new every day.

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Hmm, saying Fournette is probably the option if you're desperate for short term instant impact is bad mouthing. Learn something new every day.

What he said

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If his medical is all good, then it's Allen IMO. He meets need and value.


If not, it's pretty tough. I have Adams as the highest rated player left but he would probably have to play Nickel and then slide to SS if Church gets hurt or busts. But SS isn't a need so I'd be surprised if they went that route.


My guess after that is that it's between Fournette or Howard. Both are needs and highly rated guys. I think they'll try to trade back if possible though.

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For a fan who is going to be married to the team forever, it should come out of the Howard/Lattimore/Hooker grouping. 

 

For the front office who is either elderly or one or two more underperforming years from unemployment, it's probably Fournette.

I wouldnt call the next 7 or so years short term

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Coin flip between Allen and Lattimore


Allen it is

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Having Cook but not McCaffrey on the list is a bit mind boggling

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Hmm, saying Fournette is probably the option if you're desperate for short term instant impact is bad mouthing. Learn something new every day.

 

Oh - so you think Fournette is the smart pick there for immediate impact and Dave and Tom would save/justify their jobs by taking him? 

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I wouldnt call the next 7 or so years short term

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If his medical is all good, then it's Allen IMO. He meets need and value.


If not, it's pretty tough. I have Adams as the highest rated player left but he would probably have to play Nickel and then slide to SS if Church gets hurt or busts. But SS isn't a need so I'd be surprised if they went that route.


My guess after that is that it's between Fournette or Howard. Both are needs and highly rated guys. I think they'll try to trade back if possible though.

 

 

 

???????? He's the exact same type of player that we just signed via free agency in Calais Campbell and Malik Jackson the year before. A DE/DT hybrid. How many of these guys do we need?

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???????? He's the exact same type of player that we just signed via free agency in Calais Campbell and Malik Jackson the year before. A DE/DT hybrid. How many of these guys do we need?

except Campbell is a monster of a man

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???????? He's the exact same type of player that we just signed via free agency in Calais Campbell.

You might consider the fact that Calais Campbell will be 33 years old when Allen is beginning his third season and will either be gone or taking a limited number of snaps. 

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Oh - so you think Fournette is the smart pick there for immediate impact and Dave and Tom would save/justify their jobs by taking him? 

For year 1, if I were in their shoes, maybe. Definitely not saying would save/justify their jobs, because he does still have a bum ankle and scheme fit concerns...but you're comparing positions that historically have rookie impacts vs ones that don't.

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Actually nah I'd just hold my nose and take Mixon if I was dead set on RB at 4 like they might be. Don't want the 4th Joeckel < Johnson, Bortles < Carr, Fowler < Beasley situation in 5 years. 

 

At least draft the best one this time around.

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All things considered I feel kind of like last year in that we have high level talent available so no matter what happens so I'll be happy enough who we pick.


This SHOULD be the last time we are picking in the top 5 for awhile (said this so many times) so I hope to god we get the position we choose right.

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Who do you pick at #4 if Thomas, Garrett and Adams are gone?

Try and trade down


Allen - 20 bench reps for a guy that is obviously stronger

Howard - worth the 4th pick? Maybe

Fournette - will the Jags offense get him the ball 25 times a game?

Hooker - where would he play?

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Actually nah I'd just hold my nose and take Mixon if I was dead set on RB at 4 like they might be. Don't want the 4th Joeckel < Johnson, Bortles < Carr, Fowler < Beasley situation in 5 years.


At least draft the best one this time around.

its really miraculous how theyve done this so consistently

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