With the Cowboys said to be fed up and done with Greg Hardy, and Randy Gregory suspended for first 4 games, I don't see how the Cowboys don't take Bosa now at #4.  I mean, I guess they could take somebody else, because it IS Jerry Jones, but still.  Also, I've heard lots of people say protecting Phillip Rivers is the biggest priority for the Chargers.   Here is my last pre-combine guess:

 

1. TEN - OT Laremy Tunsil

2. CLE - QB Carson Wentz

3. S.D. – OT Ronnie Stanley

4. DAL – DE Joey Bosa

5. JAC – FS Jalen Ramsey

6. BAL – LB Myles Jack

7. S.F. - QB Jared Goff

8. MIA – DE DeForest Buckner

9. TAM - CB Vernon Hargreaves

10. NYG - DE Shaq Lawson

11. CHI – LB Reggie Ragland

12. N.O. – DT A'Shawn Robinson

13.  PHI – OT Taylor Decker

14. OAK - CB Mackensie Alexander

15. L.A. – QB Paxton Lynch

16. DET - WR Laquan Treadwell

17. ATL – LB Darron Lee

18. IND - OT Jack Conklin

19. BUF - DE Jonathan Bullard

20. NYJ – OLB/DE Leonard Floyd

21. WAS – DT Jarran Reed

22. HOU – RB Ezekiel Elliott

23. MIN – LB Darron Lee

24. CIN – DT Andrew Billings

25. PIT – CB Eli Apple

26. SEA - OT/OG Cody Whitehair

27. G.B. - DT Kenny Clark

28. K.C. – DE/DT Chris "The Snake" Jones

29. ARI - OLB Noah Spence

30. CAR – DE Emmanuel Ogbah

31. DEN – DE/DT Robert Nkemdiche

32. DAL – RB Derrick Henry  (from CLE)

33. TEN – CB William Jackson III

34. CLE – C Ryan Kelly (from DAL) (lose Center Alex Mack to Jags)

35. S.D. – DE/DT Sheldon Rankins

36. BAL – OT Jason Spriggs

37. S.F. – WR Will Fuller

38. JAC – DE Kevin Dodd

 

Like picks?  Or who would you rather have in this scenario for the Jags?

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In that scenario?


Myles Jack and Karl Joseph.

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Moved Ragland up to the Bears to be the new "Monster of the Midway".  I think he will go higher than a lot of people are projecting him.  Rams would probably love to have him since they cut Laurinaitis .    

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In this scenario the Browns did really well getting rid of the too high salary of a 30 year old overrated C, and replacing him with a great, plug and play pro bowl level C for the foreseeable future. 

 

I wish the Jags could have done that well.

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Rock, paper, scissors between Ramsey, Spence, and Jack in this scenario.  I think each player is an impact player at his defensive position.  Without having anyone in free agency in this scenario, I would prioritize the pass rusher above the others, and take Spence (and gamble on the character flag).  With the second round pick, I would shore up the backend of the secondary with Karl Joseph.  

 

With the mock's assumption of Ramsey then Ogbah, I would be OK with it.  I, for whatever reason, just don't value Ogbah as high as many others on this board. 

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Rock, paper, scissors between Ramsey, Spence, and Jack in this scenario.  I think each player is an impact player at his defensive position.  Without having anyone in free agency in this scenario, I would prioritize the pass rusher above the others, and take Spence (and gamble on the character flag).  With the second round pick, I would shore up the backend of the secondary with Karl Joseph.  

 

With the mock's assumption of Ramsey then Ogbah, I would be OK with it.  I, for whatever reason, just don't value Ogbah as high as many others on this board. 

Why are people so high on Joseph lately on this board?  He is listed as a SS at 5'11 and 197 pounds, and he just had a season-ending knee injury last year....

 

I'd take Ramsey, who can also play CB, over him all day and twice on NFL Sundays!  I'd take Bosa over Ramsey to play left DE, but he is gone here...

 

Ogbah in the 2nd could probably play three downs at left DE, with Odrick, Alualu and Marks rotating at DT.  

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If Dallas takes Bosa, I would be happy; because Jack falls right into our spot . I'm all in on Jack now...... which is sad because I don't want to get my hopes up. But either way, we should be able to land some talent at #5 .

 

GO JAGS!!

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In this scenario the Browns did really well getting rid of the too high salary of a 30 year old overrated C, and replacing him with a great, plug and play pro bowl level C for the foreseeable future. 

 

I wish the Jags could have done that well.

Jags have tons of money to spend, and they will spend a bunch on Mack if he will sign again.  Browns sure must value Mack if they matched all that money the Jags threw at him.  Kelly may be good in the long run, but right now he is unproven in the NFL.  All that said, if we don't get Mack, Kelly would make a nice addition to the O-line at #38.  

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Myles Jack and Obah would be my preference.


I'm not totally sold on Ramsey.  

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If Ramsey can develop into a [BLEEP] down corner and dynamic safety he is worth the pick over Jack. I think Jack is a better player right now though. Ramsey's position had more of a premium on it.

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If Dallas takes Bosa, I would be happy; because Jack falls right into our spot . I'm all in on Jack now...... which is sad because I don't want to get my hopes up. But either way, we should be able to land some talent at #5 .

 

GO JAGS!!

Well, Baltimore would love that, cause Ramsey would then fall in their lap.

 

 I wouldn't be mad if we took Jack.  Would be a great pick.  We will see how Caldwell feels about him.  Where would he play though?  Take Skuta's spot, or replace Poz in the middle?

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Well, Baltimore would love that, cause Ramsey would then fall in their lap.

 

 I wouldn't be mad if we took Jack.  Would be a great pick.  We will see how Caldwell feels about him.  Where would he play though?  Take Skuta's spot, or replace Poz in the middle?

 

I think it would be kind of a mix and match between Smith, Poz, Skuta, and Jack, with Jack stepping in for Poz on 3rd and long, and spelling Skuta at times, and sometimes, there's an injury.   Right now, I know who our starting 3 are, but beyond that, who?  

 

The fact is, we need better pass rush, and we need better coverage.   Think if it as needing a better front 7 and a better back 7.   Why can't Jack rush the passer as well as cover tight ends?   Not simultaneously, of course, but he can do both.  

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The Jags are in a good spot/situation in this year's draft. Needing defense, one of these guys will be there for the taking:


Bosa (although I realize he wouldn't be available in this threads scenario)

Jack

Ramsey

Spence

VH3


Any one of those guys is a good pick for Jax this year. I'd be happy with any of them.

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Jags have tons of money to spend, and they will spend a bunch on Mack if he will sign again.  Browns sure must value Mack if they matched all that money the Jags threw at him.  

At the time yes it was a no brainer for the Browns to match that contract (and for us to offer it). Mack was 28 years old and the best C in the league. Since then he is 30, broke his leg, and is coming off of an underwhelming season...and will demand yet again the most expensive C contract in history. This Mack is not that Mack, and to expect him to return to that Mack at this point carries a whole lot of downside and not very much upside at 10+ mil/yr. 

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With the Cowboys said to be fed up and done with Greg Hardy, and Randy Gregory suspended for first 4 games, I don't see how the Cowboys don't take Bosa now at #4.  I mean, I guess they could take somebody else, because it IS Jerry Jones, but still.  Also, I've heard lots of people say protecting Phillip Rivers is the biggest priority for the Chargers.   Here is my last pre-combine guess:

 

1. TEN - OT Laremy Tunsil

2. CLE - QB Carson Wentz

3. S.D. – OT Ronnie Stanley

4. DAL – DE Joey Bosa

5. JAC – FS Jalen Ramsey

6. BAL – OLB Noah Spence

7. S.F. - QB Jared Goff

8. MIA – LB Myles Jack

9. TAM - CB Vernon Hargreaves

10. NYG - DE DeForest Buckner

11. CHI – LB Reggie Ragland

12. N.O. – DE/OLB Shaq Lawson

13.  PHI – OT Taylor Decker

14. OAK - CB Mackensie Alexander

15. L.A. – QB Paxton Lynch

16. DET - WR Laquan Treadwell

17. ATL – LB Jaylon Smith

18. IND - OT Jack Conklin

19. BUF - DE/DT Robert Nkemdiche

20. NYJ – DT A'Shawn Robinson

21. WAS – DT Jarran Reed

22. HOU – RB Ezekiel Elliott

23. MIN – OT/G Cody Whitehair

24. CIN – DT Andrew Billings

25. PIT – CB Eli Apple

26. SEA - DT Sheldon Rankins

27. G.B. - DT Vernon Butler

28. K.C. – DE Jonathan Bullard

29. ARI - OLB Leonard Floyd

30. CAR – DE Kevin Dodd

31. DEN – LB Darron Lee

32. DAL – RB Derrick Henry  (from CLE)

33. TEN – CB K. Fuller

34. CLE – C Ryan Kelly (from DAL) (lose Center Alex Mack to Jags)

35. S.D. – FS Darian Thompson

36. BAL – OT Jason Spriggs

37. S.F. – WR Corey Coleman

38. JAC – DE Emmanuel Ogbah (I don't think he lasts this long in real draft, but here he does)

 

Like picks?  Or who would you rather have in this scenario for the Jags?

 

With the Cowboys said to be fed up and done with Greg Hardy, and Randy Gregory suspended for first 4 games, I don't see how the Cowboys don't take Bosa now at #4.  I mean, I guess they could take somebody else, because it IS Jerry Jones, but still.  Also, I've heard lots of people say protecting Phillip Rivers is the biggest priority for the Chargers.   Here is my last pre-combine guess:

 

1. TEN - OT Laremy Tunsil

2. CLE - QB Carson Wentz

3. S.D. – OT Ronnie Stanley

4. DAL – DE Joey Bosa

5. JAC – FS Jalen Ramsey

6. BAL – OLB Noah Spence

7. S.F. - QB Jared Goff

8. MIA – LB Myles Jack

9. TAM - CB Vernon Hargreaves

10. NYG - DE DeForest Buckner

11. CHI – LB Reggie Ragland

12. N.O. – DE/OLB Shaq Lawson

13.  PHI – OT Taylor Decker

14. OAK - CB Mackensie Alexander

15. L.A. – QB Paxton Lynch

16. DET - WR Laquan Treadwell

17. ATL – LB Jaylon Smith

18. IND - OT Jack Conklin

19. BUF - DE/DT Robert Nkemdiche

20. NYJ – DT A'Shawn Robinson

21. WAS – DT Jarran Reed

22. HOU – RB Ezekiel Elliott

23. MIN – OT/G Cody Whitehair

24. CIN – DT Andrew Billings

25. PIT – CB Eli Apple

26. SEA - DT Sheldon Rankins

27. G.B. - DT Vernon Butler

28. K.C. – DE Jonathan Bullard

29. ARI - OLB Leonard Floyd

30. CAR – DE Kevin Dodd

31. DEN – LB Darron Lee

32. DAL – RB Derrick Henry  (from CLE)

33. TEN – CB K. Fuller

34. CLE – C Ryan Kelly (from DAL) (lose Center Alex Mack to Jags)

35. S.D. – FS Darian Thompson

36. BAL – OT Jason Spriggs

37. S.F. – WR Corey Coleman

38. JAC – DE Emmanuel Ogbah (I don't think he lasts this long in real draft, but here he does)

 

Like picks?  Or who would you rather have in this scenario for the Jags?

 

I have a sneaky suspicion Dave will target the safety position in FA, whether it's Eric Berry or TaShaun Gibson. I just don't see the Jags investing the 5th overall pick into the back end of the defense. It wouldn't surprise me if Myles Jack, Noah Spence (his past complicates things), Bosa, and even Buckner are rated higher on their board given the needs of this team, the Jags more than anything need more disruption and speed in the front 7, give me a disruptive player that plays closer to the LOS any day of the week.

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Why are people so high on Joseph lately on this board? He is listed as a SS at 5'11 and 197 pounds, and he just had a season-ending knee injury last year....


I'd take Ramsey, who can also play CB, over him all day and twice on NFL Sundays! I'd take Bosa over Ramsey to play left DE, but he is gone here...


Ogbah in the 2nd could probably play three downs at left DE, with Odrick, Alualu and Marks rotating at DT.

Let me update you on Joseph...


He hits like a SS, but moves like a FS.


He's a Stree Safety....

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Why are people so high on Joseph lately on this board? He is listed as a SS at 5'11 and 197 pounds, and he just had a season-ending knee injury last year....


I'd take Ramsey, who can also play CB, over him all day and twice on NFL Sundays! I'd take Bosa over Ramsey to play left DE, but he is gone here...


Ogbah in the 2nd could probably play three downs at left DE, with Odrick, Alualu and Marks rotating at DT.

go watch his tape and you will understand why

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Let me update you on Joseph...


He hits like a SS, but moves like a FS.


He's a Stree Safety....

and he actually has the "ball hawking" skills people speak of about Ramsey

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and he actually has the "ball hawking" skills people speak of about Ramsey

I just can't stress it enough how perfectly he fits into our FS spot. It's so easy to picture him back there on gameday.

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I can't see Dallas taking Bosa. They still run the 3-4 right? He doesn't really fit well in a 3-4.. I could definitely see them taking Myles Jack though. They would be wise to avoid Noah Spence, but hey, it's the Cowboys, and he's the best pass rusher in the draft...

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