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NFLPA Grievance Against Jags?

#1

Apparently the Jags have asked players that are currently injured to do their rehabbing in Jacksonville during the offseason and that's rubbing some players, their agents, and the player's association the wrong way. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-grievance

 

 

 


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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!
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#4

We have a team full of sissies and wonder why we can't win. Just LOL at these "men".


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#5

Wait til they start getting fined for not being 5 minutes early to a meeting.
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#6

The leauge has gone soft though. I think it's petty players can't engage or talk to the coaches until April. Just seems odd. I am sure some of them do it anyway. But just having that rule in place is absurd. 


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#7

I am with the players on this one.  It is the offseason.  If Coughlin wants to make it truly voluntary, then I think all would be OK with it.   It is the mandatory part that delivers the issue. 


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#8

Quote:The leauge has gone soft though. I think it's petty players can't engage or talk to the coaches until April. Just seems odd. I am sure some of them do it anyway. But just having that rule in place is absurd. 
I think it has hurt team/player preparation and makes it more difficult to develop players.

 

However, if it was a negotiated term of the collective bargaining agreement., it needs to be followed.

 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#9

woohoo toughness! tom ruling with an iron fist! discipline!!!!
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#10

no but really this is stupid as [BLEEP]


its the offseason they cant dictate where these guys need to be
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#11

Quote:Apparently the Jags have asked players that are currently injured to do their rehabbing in Jacksonville during the offseason and that's rubbing some players, their agents, and the player's association the wrong way. 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-grievance
 

I can see both sides of the argument.  The off-season should be just that for players, but by the same token they are still employed by the team.  The NFL is a different business and how things like this are handled and resolved is a business issue.



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#13

Quote:I can see both sides of the argument.  The off-season should be just that for players, but by the same token they are still employed by the team.  The NFL is a different business and how things like this are handled and resolved is a business issue.
I agree.  

 

Some degree of "managing" a player's re-hab process must be allowed. The team should be allowed to be involved.  The team is heavily invested in that player and his well-being.  

 

Yet requiring them to limit health care choices and family placement/displacement can be seen as going a step too far.  

 

Needs to be a balance struck IMO.

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#15

Quote:I agree.


Some degree of "managing" a player's re-hab process must be allowed. The team should be allowed to be involved. The team is heavily invested in that player and his well-being.


Yet requiring them to limit health care choices and family placement/displacement can be seen as going a step too far.


Needs to be a balance struck IMO.
Im sure teams around the league have this figured out though. Tons of players spend their offseason in other places, predominantly LA. Ive never heard of an instance where the location of rehab was a problem other than this here.
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#16

Quote:Im sure teams around the league have this figured out though. Tons of players spend their offseason in other places, predominantly LA. Ive never heard of an instance where the location of rehab was a problem other than this here.
I've read about individual cases where players and team doctors disagree about treatment facilities, methods of treatment and doctors --  but don't recall it happening on the team level like this. 

 

It sounds like the new regime in Jax trying to set a hard line with it's players and it's likely one that they'll be forced to relent on rather quickly. 

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#17

Quote:I agree.  

 

Some degree of "managing" a player's re-hab process must be allowed. The team should be allowed to be involved.  The team is heavily invested in that player and his well-being.  

 

Yet requiring them to limit health care choices and family placement/displacement can be seen as going a step too far.  

 

Needs to be a balance struck IMO.
 

I kind of lean towards the team(s) in this case.  In my opinion, your employer has the right to dictate when you are and are not "off" of work.  Just because it is the off-season, a player is still employed by the team that they are attached to, and still has an obligation to that team.

 

By the same token, players probably prefer to use their own doctors/therapists in their own home towns, and I certainly understand that.

 

The bottom line though is that players need to conform to their employer's rules.




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#18

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The bottom line though is that players need to conform to their employer's rules.
I agree, especially when the compensation is so exorbitant.  But this is one of those situations where a union is expressly dictating the terms of that conformity to the employer -  and the employer is over-reaching the terms of the agreement.

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#19

Quote:I agree, especially when the compensation is so exorbitant.  But this is one of those situations where a union is expressly dictating the terms of that conformity to the employer -  and the employer is over-reaching the terms of the agreement.
 

It's a slippery slope for sure.



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#20

Love what Tom is doing here.


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