Quote:I never understood why people put so much stock in being "under oath." If they can't prove you lied you can lie under oath all you want.
It's because a lie under oath is much more easily exposed. A court proceeding allows for the subpoena of documents such as text and email records, which may disprove sworn testimony.
I almost want them to comeback to play us... It would be amazing if we could beat them with Brady.
Quote:He also knew that the balls went missing.
It's not his job to give a cheater enough rope. It's his job to make sure that the game is fair. "Sorry Mr. Irsay, but we'll let your team play at a disadvantage, and maybe miss out on the Superbowl because of it, just so that we can gather some additional evidence against the Pats." This is not to mention that measuring low pressure minutes after measuring the correct pressure would have been a smoking gun. Measuring low pressure on balls that were out in the cold for over an hour proved nothing.
It is the teams responsibility to provide regulation balls and It is the refs responsibility to check the balls once before the game. There was nothing to say why the balls were briefly missing and you can't make the presumption that they were missing in order to be deflated based solely on what the opposing team says. For all they know at the time, the whole thing could have been a ploy by the colts to create an additional distraction which they hoped to exploit. So in reality, there is nothing to justify delaying the game. NE had their responsibility to provide regulation balls and are accountable to doing that. There is nothing fair with relieving NE of that responsibility or the accountability that comes with it.
They planned on measuring the balls again at a time that wouldn't create a delay or other distraction from the game and did that by measuring the balls at half time.
When rules are made, there is reasonable expectation that the rules will get followed. Of course if a rule gets circumvented, then it is the responsibility of the league to prevent further circumvention. But to create rules on top of rules in order to prevent any form of circumvention would just create an infinite cycle of redundant rulemaking to cover each rule written previously. There wouldn't be time to play the actual game that all these redundant rules were meant to protect.
Instead of creating a system of prevention that is totally impractical, the league has done what people have done for thousands of years and that is instead of preventing someone from breaking the rules you hold them accountable for when they break the rules.
Sadly, the concept of accountability is a foreign idea to many in the modern age. No one thinks they should be responsible for their own actions anymore.
Quote:It is the teams responsibility to provide regulation balls and It is the refs responsibility to check the balls once before the game. There was nothing to say why the balls were briefly missing and you can't make the presumption that they were missing in order to be deflated based solely on what the opposing team says. For all they know at the time, the whole thing could have been a ploy by the colts to create an additional distraction which they hoped to exploit. So in reality, there is nothing to justify delaying the game. NE had their responsibility to provide regulation balls and are accountable to doing that. There is nothing fair with relieving NE of that responsibility or the accountability that comes with it.
They planned on measuring the balls again at a time that wouldn't create a delay or other distraction from the game and did that by measuring the balls at half time.
When rules are made, there is reasonable expectation that the rules will get followed. Of course if a rule gets circumvented, then it is the responsibility of the league to prevent further circumvention. But to create rules on top of rules in order to prevent any form of circumvention would just create an infinite cycle of redundant rulemaking to cover each rule written previously. There wouldn't be time to play the actual game that all these redundant rules were meant to protect.
Instead of creating a system of prevention that is totally impractical, the league has done what people have done for thousands of years and that is instead of preventing someone from breaking the rules you hold them accountable for when they break the rules.
Sadly, the concept of accountability is a foreign idea to many in the modern age. No one thinks they should be responsible for their own actions anymore.
So when are Colts players getting suspended for their deflated balls from the same game?
Quote:That's EXACTLY why they'll reduce it. If the penalty isn't reduced on appeal, it'll end up in a federal courtroom. I don't think the league wants to see that happen. Especially with a player who is still fairly popular league-wide.
Look for the Pats team penalties to be reduced as well.
I have to agree. This seems like the most likely outcome.
I'm sure Brady's phone from December 2014 no longer exists. Kraft and Belichick likely discovered a need for new hardware, too.
Quote:So when are Colts players getting suspended for their deflated balls from the same game?
That's what you got out of that? Geez Louis.
Quote:I'm sure Brady's phone from December 2014 no longer exists. Kraft and Belichick likely discovered a need for new hardware, too.
Too bad the phone company keeps record still.
Wonder how long this appeal process will take...
Quote:I'm sure Brady's phone from December 2014 no longer exists. Kraft and Belichick likely discovered a need for new hardware, too.
Doesn't the cell provider have all that info somewhere, or is that just something I saw on CSI? Lol
Quote:Doesn't the cell provider have all that info somewhere, or is that just something I saw on CSI? Lol
They do. I saw it on first 48 lol.
Quote:So when are Colts players getting suspended for their deflated balls from the same game?
I've been following this pretty closely, but unless I missed something, no Colts' employees have been accused of letting air out of the ball after the refs inspected and signed off on them.
Incidently, the Colts employees dud improperly gauge a gameball during play and have previously been reported fit inappropriate v conduct with air gauges and needles on the sideline during the game. Both are violations of the save rule concerning psi. The fact that they are not under inquiry in my mind demonstrates bias
Quote:I've been following this pretty closely, but unless I missed something, no Colts' employees have been accused of letting air out of the ball after the refs inspected and signed off on them.
And why haven't they been accused when other teams have complained about them, they've been caught with needles and gauges on the sidelines, and their balls were gauged just as deflated as the Patriots' were? Something doesn't add up here.
Quote:And why haven't they been accused when other teams have complained about them, they've been caught with needles and gauges on the sidelines, and their balls were gauged just as deflated as the Patriots' were? Something doesn't add up here.
But they're the Colts though. They could never do wrong. Just look at the uniforms. So sweet and innocent.