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Quote:I agree that it's ridiculous the two leagues have a different set of rules. I would prefer to see the NL adopt the DH, though. Too many pitchers are useless at the plate and don't even take their at-bats seriously.

 

I can't stand how the pitcher's spot in the batting order is almost an automatic out. If you have guys on 1st and 2nd with 2 outs and the #8 batter up, you don't have to give him a fastball because the pitcher is going to (likely) be an easy out to end any potential rally. There's hardly any risk at all in loading the bases up because most pitchers are useless at the plate (especially with 2 outs).

 

Personally, I like making the pitchers hit because the AL pitchers don't have to suffer any consequences when the intentionally hit a batter.   In the NL, when a pitcher hits a batter from the opposing team, they still need to get up to the plate with the thought that the opposing pitcher will now take revenge and throw right back at him.

Quote:Personally, I like making the pitchers hit because the AL pitchers don't have to suffer any consequences when the intentionally hit a batter.   In the NL, when a pitcher hits a batter from the opposing team, they still need to get up to the plate with the thought that the opposing pitcher will now take revenge and throw right back at him.

 

I guess everyone has their reasons.

Every other player plays defense and offense. Why not just have 9 'fielding specialists' and 9 DH's? Then we wouldn't have to watch any bad hitters.


The pitcher should hit as well. I've hated the DH since it was instituted.

Quote:Every other player plays defense and offense. Why not just have 9 'fielding specialists' and 9 DH's? Then we wouldn't have to watch any bad hitters.


The pitcher should hit as well. I've hated the DH since it was instituted.

 

You're entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to disagree.

Quote:You're entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to disagree.

Gee. Thanks for stating the obvious.

Quote:Gee. Thanks for stating the obvious.

 

It just seemed like you were coming off as stating there is only one logical side to this. There is a logical argument both for and against the DH rule.

Quote:It just seemed like you were coming off as stating there is only one logical side to this. There is a logical argument both for and against the DH rule.

Well yeah, there's 'logical' arguments if you prefer a bastardized version of the game.


I don't.

Quote:Well yeah, there's 'logical' arguments if you prefer a bastardized version of the game.


I don't.

 

I, and many others, think it's the better version of the game.

Quote:It just seemed like you were coming off as stating there is only one logical side to this. There is a logical argument both for and against the DH rule.

 

It's funny that is how you thought he was coming off when from someone first reading this thread you come off as the one talking down to people who don't agree with your side.  Not trying to be rude, its just the way it comes off.

 

I am pretty impartial to either side, but after reading the side where a pitcher can beam someone with a ball and have no repercussions because he doesn't bat....You're letting others take the risk because of your actions.

So far this season, pitchers are 25 for 227 which is a 0.110 average. Why do you want to see more pitcher at bats?

Quote:So far this season, pitchers are 25 for 227 which is a 0.099 average. Why do you want to see more pitcher at bats?

First of all, your calculation is wrong. 25 for 250 is .100 so how could 25 for 227 be .099?


If your sole reason is because of pitchers batting, why stop with only pitchers having a DH? You could open up a whole new niche for players that are only gold-glovers but can't hit to save their lives.

Does anyone here have a kid that plays little league?  What are your thoughts on kids pitching?

 

I've read some articles where throwing at a young age can really screw kids up for later in life.  I have a feeling my son is going to want to play baseball in a couple years and I'm hoping he doesn't want to pitch.  I don't think I'd allow it.

Quote:First of all, your calculation is wrong. 25 for 250 is .100 so how could 25 for 227 be .099?


If your sole reason is because of pitchers batting, why stop with only pitchers having a DH? You could open up a whole new niche for players that are only gold-glovers but can't hit to save their lives.

Yeah, for some reason I added them together before dividing.

 

So, basically your argument to have a completely useless player make an out every at bat is because you don't know where to draw the line.

Quote:Yeah, for some reason I added them together before dividing.


So, basically your argument to have a completely useless player make an out every at bat is because you don't know where to draw the line.

You never answered my question.


Why stop at pitcher?

It's a shame when #8 batters are being pitched around with two outs because the near automatic out in the 9 slot. Pretty cheap tactic that doesn't work at other levels because pitchers are usually average hitters.


Josh, youth pitching is heading in the right direction. 15 years ago the rule was that you can't use a pitcher in back to back games and they need at least a day rest if they pitch over an inning (I believe). Now, pitch counts are being enforced and that's a great thing.


The problem is that the elite pitchers are now playing year around or close to it. That is a lot of wear and tear.

Quote:You never answered my question.


Why stop at pitcher?

Maybe you shouldn't. Considering how boring the game is today, maybe this is how to fix it.

Quote:Maybe you shouldn't. Considering how boring the game is today, maybe this is how to fix it.

If you consider baseball boring, you're probably watching the wrong sport.

Quote:If you consider baseball boring, you're probably watching the wrong sport.

Yeah, nothing more exciting than watching a pitch, then watching the pitcher spit about 7 times while fiddling with his glove while the batter adjust his gloves, and nuts for about 50 seconds and then another pitch and on and on.

Quote:Yeah, nothing more exciting than watching a pitch, then watching the pitcher spit about 7 times while fiddling with his glove while the batter adjust his gloves, and nuts for about 50 seconds and then another pitch and on and on.

Changes have been made by MLB to speed things up.  

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/2...DH20150220

Quote:Yeah, nothing more exciting than watching a pitch, then watching the pitcher spit about 7 times while fiddling with his glove while the batter adjust his gloves, and nuts for about 50 seconds and then another pitch and on and on.

This is supposed to mean something?


I already said you were watching the wrong sport.