Quote:Mason foster. He can play the same position and is better than Skuta. I understand FA, but these type of players were going for 1-2 mi last year, inflation is bad but this is a bit much. Much of the SF LB corp makes less than a million. We signed Dekota Watson for 1.5 just last year for the same otto position. There are good players out there, like Foster, I don't think Skuta is in his class.
Mason Foster is a 241 lb middle linebacker. Completely different skill set and physique from an Otto.
Foster would be a decent back up to Poz maybe, but he's not an Otto.
Quote:who isn't better than Watson at this point?
Then why u mad?
People are going to have to rethink about what deals are considered bad or not. By next year the salary cap has raised like over 25% over the past 5 years. Players are gonna be paid more money than seemed right a few years ago.
I've only seen this guy play a few times. So I don't have a good idea of what we're getting. So I'll just take the wait and see approach.
OLB/DE in college. 6'3 250.
1.60 10 yard split (better than Clemons)
7.05 3 cone drill (better than Clemons)
Similar vert/broad jump as Clemons
Could Dave and Gus be making a sneaky move here?
Quote:OLB/DE in college. 6'3 250.
1.60 10 yard split (better than Clemons)
7.05 3 cone drill (better than Clemons)
Similar vert/broad jump as Clemons
Could Dave and Gus be making a sneaky move here?
look at his track record. he has played for two teams and started for neither. it is what it is. expectations should not be high.
Skuta looks to be the Otto, and could also be MLB on passing downs/subs/etc.
Quote:Mason Foster is a 241 lb middle linebacker. Completely different skill set and physique from an Otto.
Foster would be a decent back up to Poz maybe, but he's not an Otto.
Ridiculous. Skuta is 250 pounds and was a middle linebacker, he has played every linebacker spot. So now he is an Otto and nothing else, and Foster is a middle and nothing else? People get too caught up in Otto this or Sam that. They move around, even Gus said sometimes one Otto, sometimes 3 Ottos. These names are cute, but the two players are both linebackers, similar sized, and Foster has much better production. Right now the Bears are trying to land him and with good reason he was a bright spot for the Bucs. Skuta, not so much.
Quote:Mason foster. He can play the same position and is better than Skuta. I understand FA, but these type of players were going for 1-2 mi last year, inflation is bad but this is a bit much. Much of the SF LB corp makes less than a million. We signed Dekota Watson for 1.5 just last year for the same otto position. There are good players out there, like Foster, I don't think Skuta is in his class.
Dekoda Watson had done literally nothing his entire career. You had to be blind to not see how badly that was going to end.
Quote:From WalterFootball. Before last year I thought his FA grades where awful but he was pretty good with last years so it redeemed him a little for me. Hopefully Skuta can prove him wrong and he can go back to being an idiot again.
WalterFootball is an idiot, and he hates the Jaguars for some reason.
Quote:Or maybe it's a case of exactly the opposite; that they in fact do know 'how it works' and so they aren't putting all their cookies into it. The goal is to build via the draft and only supplement via f/a. Still, given our season records the past few years I would be kind'a surprised if after 4:00pm Tuesday the Jags didn't make a splash in f/a this year. We won't really know who is going where until late Tuesday afternoon; until then, it's all talk from player agents and the talking heads.
I was referring to the fans not knowing how FA works, but your point is well made and taken.
Quote:That salary is only what they COULD make.. They have to prove themselves to really get those figures though. You know, jump through the hoops..
Usually I disagree with you, but sometimes you say things that make a lot of sense...
Quote:Once in a blue moon, even the ugly girl gets voted prom queen.. Now, whether we telepathically lock the doors and burn everyone alive with our mind, time will tell..
...and sometimes, you just make me laugh. Never seen a FA acquisition compared to Carrie before
Quote:Dekoda Watson had done literally nothing his entire career. You had to be blind to not see how badly that was going to end.
WalterFootball is an idiot, and he hates the Jaguars for some reason.
I was referring to the fans not knowing how FA works, but your point is well made and taken.
Usually I disagree with you, but sometimes you say things that make a lot of sense...
...and sometimes, you just make me laugh. Never seen a FA acquisition compared to Carrie before .gif)
Watson was just like Skuta or Parnell. Played very very little until his final year with a previous team and did ok.
We just need to hope neither are another Watson.
Quote:Ridiculous. Skuta is 250 pounds and was a middle linebacker, he has played every linebacker spot. So now he is an Otto and nothing else, and Foster is a middle and nothing else? People get too caught up in Otto this or Sam that. They move around, even Gus said sometimes one Otto, sometimes 3 Ottos. These names are cute, but the two players are both linebackers, similar sized, and Foster has much better production. Right now the Bears are trying to land him and with good reason he was a bright spot for the Bucs. Skuta, not so much.
you might want to educate yourself on what the otto is supposed to be.
Skuta has played extensively at olb in a 3-4 and has experience playing at the lline of scrimmage. Foster is not that type of player.
Regarding Skuta,
Word on twitter was there was like 5 teams bidding on him, I'm sure that had a bit to do with the price tag.
Quote:Regarding Skuta,
Word on twitter was there was like 5 teams bidding on him, I'm sure that had a bit to do with the price tag.
Plus, it seems folks forget you're overpaying in FA for no matter who it is.
Who cares about the money? The thing is to get the right players. Gus and Dave know what they're looking for. Looks like the Jags are targeting lunch pail guys who love the game. They are certainly creating competition and depth at positions of need.
I'd rather deplete most of the cap and have good to great players than have tons of money left over and another crappy season..
Quote:Who cares about the money? The thing is to get the right players. Gus and Dave know what they're looking for. Looks like the Jags are targeting lunch pail guys who love the game. They are certainly creating competition and depth at positions of need.
whats a lunch pail guy?
Quote:whats a lunch pail guy?
Blue collar, get your helmet and hit someone..
Quote:Blue collar, get your helmet and hit someone..
Then take your helmet off, shake hands, hit the shower and go home. Do it again tomorrow.
Quote:you might want to educate yourself on what the otto is supposed to be.
Skuta has played extensively at olb in a 3-4 and has experience playing at the lline of scrimmage. Foster is not that type of player.
Skuta was a middle. There was a big article on him learning to transfer to olb. He wasnt born into it or have some gift for it. If anything he looks physically like a middle than Foster. So Skuta can learn otto but Foster cannot? Thats bunk.