Natanyahu had no business talking to Congress.
1. It's not proper to host a politician during their election year.
2. Bibby stated in 1996 that Iran was a year away from the bomb. Even an ex Mossad agent said his speech was a reach.
3. He guaranteed that the Middle East would see remarkable improvement if we got rid of Sadaam. How'd that work out?
4. Many who dumped French wine in the streets and changed names to freedom fries a few years ago, condemned leadership for not marching with Je Suis Charlie.
My point being... There were a few countries including Russia and China in the mix in the talks with Iran. Can we trust them? I don't, but it seems the rest of the world is keeping an eye on them.
So... What would the GOP do if the reverse happened? For example...George W is in talks with various countries trying to form a coalition to invade Iraq. The Dems, without his knowledge, invite Frances president to speak to Congress to raise issues of being against the war. How would that have gone over?
5. Nice speech, however, what were the solutions? Sure Bibby had the guests swooning and many Congressmen looked clearly like they wouldn't need there daily dose of Viagra. They were falling all over themselves for a hug. A nice cluster of starry eyed fans. But again..who had a better idea? A solution? A" final" solution? There is none. Does Bibby imply that talks are useless and the US should attack? What? If there wasn't any solution or proposals, all this was, was disruptive. But, alas, it's our Congress. Buffoon land.
This did not strengthen our relationship with our main ally in the Mid East. Only time will tell if Iran stays in line. But hell ...with NKorea, Pakistan,etc with nukes.... It may just be a matter of time anyway.
In closing, Netanyahus trip wasn't kosher.
Just my 2 cents. But it's 2 cents more than the Ted Cruz rant..... Friggin Canuck...lol.
Quote:Natanyahu had no business talking to Congress.
1. It's not proper to host a politician during their election year.
Regarding what you expressed, you can tell this to Bill and Hillary Clinton:
Denying it is snubbing Netanyahu, White House cites ‘long-standing practice’ of not inviting candidates close to polling day. So what was Clinton doing with Peres in 1996?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/actually-a-...elections/
Quote:Regarding what you expressed, you can tell this to Bill and Hillary Clinton:
Denying it is snubbing Netanyahu, White House cites ‘long-standing practice’ of not inviting candidates close to polling day. So what was Clinton doing with Peres in 1996?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/actually-a-...elections/
Look, you aren't smart enough to understand the nuances of the liberal mind. If you'd just accept that they are smarter than you and any and everything they do and say is for your benefit because of their inherent benevolence then you would be much better off.
Quote:Regarding what you expressed, you can tell this to Bill and Hillary Clinton:
Denying it is snubbing Netanyahu, White House cites ‘long-standing practice’ of not inviting candidates close to polling day. So what was Clinton doing with Peres in 1996?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.timesofisrael.com/actually-a-us-president-did-host-an-israeli-pm-just-before-elections/'>http://www.timesofisrael.com/actually-a-us-president-did-host-an-israeli-pm-just-before-elections/</a>
I dunno. Ask Bill.. But it was the same year Netanyahu said Iran was a year away from ze bomb.
But I guess Bill did it, so it's ok. That's like kids saying... Joey can do it, why can't I. Or Dad smokes, so,can too. 2 wrongs?
Quote:Look, you aren't smart enough to understand the nuances of the liberal mind. If you'd just accept that they are smarter than you and any and everything they do and say is for your benefit because of their inherent benevolence then you would be much better off.
I'll say this. There are some liberals, including on this MB, who I think are good people and wish them great health. But when it comes to liberalism itself, it's in essence the complete opposite of what I believe in.
Quote:I dunno. Ask Bill.. But it was the same year Netanyahu said Iran was a year away from ze bomb.
But I guess Bill did it, so it's ok. That's like kids saying... Joey can do it, why can't I. Or Dad smokes, so,can too. 2 wrongs?
I think the only reason Iran doesn't have nuclear bomb capabilities yet is its a gift from above. Obviously, because of the COC, I'm not going to go beyond this. Except to say that if Israel or the U.S. doesn't effectively deal with Iran's nuclear program, they are going to end up with nuclear weapons sooner or later. The consequences of that are beyond comprehension.
Quote:I'll say this. There are some liberals, including on this MB, who I think are good people and wish them great health. But when it comes to liberalism itself, it's in essence the complete opposite of what I believe in.
I'm a fairly liberal person in the classical sense. These people aren't liberals, they're leftists.
Quote:I'm a fairly liberal person in the classical sense. These people aren't liberals, they're leftists.
I'm glad you clarified this as modern version of liberalism= the left, is what I was referring too above.
Basically, my vision of what I would like the U.S. to be is a Ted Cruz or Michele Bachmann type of person as President of the United States.
Quote:I'm glad you clarified this as modern version of liberalism= the left, is what I was referring too above.
Basically, my vision of what I would like the U.S. to be is a Ted Cruz or Michele Bachmann type of person as President of the United States.
USA. United States Asylum
Cruz, Bachmann. One is a Canadian, the other a Canadian band.
Sorry Canada, just sayin
Quote:I think the only reason Iran doesn't have nuclear bomb capabilities yet is its a gift from above. Obviously, because of the COC, I'm not going to go beyond this. Except to say that if Israel or the U.S. doesn't effectively deal with Iran's nuclear program, they are going to end up with nuclear weapons sooner or later. The consequences of that are beyond comprehension.
You're saying they don't have nukes because God said so? Gifted the world?
Quote:USA. United States Asylum
Cruz, Bachmann. One is a Canadian, the other a Canadian band.
Sorry Canada, just sayin
Ted Cruz became a former Canadian,
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/...tizenship/
As for Canada, I'll be more than content that Stephen Harper remains Canadian P.M. as long as he's eligible.
Quote:You're saying they don't have nukes because God said so? Gifted the world?
You can fill in the blanks. I'm saying that logically, Iran should have had Nuclear Capabilities a long time ago. Thankfully, they don't. But if the current path is continued, they will.
Doesn't Isreal already have nukes?
Quote:Doesn't Isreal already have nukes?
Their policy is Nuclear Ambiguity, "maybe we do, maybe we don't, but you don't want to find out", and they are not a party to the non-proliferation treaty.
Quote:So... What would the GOP do if the reverse happened? For example...George W is in talks with various countries trying to form a coalition to invade Iraq. The Dems, without his knowledge, invite Frances president to speak to Congress to raise issues of being against the war. How would that have gone over?
Except that has happened, last time around it was the Democrats seeking out Assad when the Bush administration was trying to isolate them,
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17920536/ns/wo...ets-assad/
Look it's all posturing, Personally I don't understand how either political party could take the side of Iran over Israel but to each his own. Israel has their faults and is guilty of plenty wrong doing, but that has nothing to do with understanding Iran having nuclear capabilities is no good for anyone.
Quote:Except that has happened, last time around it was the Democrats seeking out Assad when the Bush administration was trying to isolate them,
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17920536/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/pelosi-shrugs-bushs-criticism-meets-assad/'>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17920536/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/pelosi-shrugs-bushs-criticism-meets-assad/</a>
Look it's all posturing, Personally I don't understand how either political party could take the side of Iran over Israel but to each his own. Israel has their faults and is guilty of plenty wrong doing, but that has nothing to do with understanding Iran having nuclear capabilities is no good for anyone.
Pelosi traveling to Syria to have lunch with Assad ( Dumb and Dumber part 3 ) isn't quite the same as Carrot Face inviting Netanyahu to speak to Congress, at the same time the nuke talks were going on, and to give an opposing ( undermining?) view.
But, either way, it's typical of the worst Congress in history.
Quote:But, either way, it's typical of the worst Congress in history.
Wow, they sure have accomplished a lot in 68 days!
Quote:Wow, they sure have accomplished a lot in 68 days!
Sure have. Even with a majority, Carrot Face can't get a consensus.
Quote:Except that has happened, last time around it was the Democrats seeking out Assad when the Bush administration was trying to isolate them,
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17920536/ns/wo...ets-assad/
Look it's all posturing, Personally I don't understand how either political party could take the side of Iran over Israel but to each his own. Israel has their faults and is guilty of plenty wrong doing, but that has nothing to do with understanding Iran having nuclear capabilities is no good for anyone.
It's not about taking sides. It's about diplomatically attempting to resolve an issue. Bibby offered no solution because he does not want one. All he did was convinced a large group of republican congressmen to write a letter to Iran informing them any deal they reach with the president will not be honored once he is out office.
Think about that.
A foreign leader has convinced our congressmen to actively sabotage negotiation efforts by our country with another foreign country. That's insane.
Quote:It's not about taking sides. It's about diplomatically attempting to resolve an issue. Bibby offered no solution because he does not want one. All he did was convinced a large group of republican congressmen to write a letter to Iran informing them any deal they reach with the president will not be honored once he is out office.
Think about that.
A foreign leader has convinced our congressmen to actively sabotage negotiation efforts by our country with another foreign country. That's insane.
To be fair, I don't think the Republicans needed Netanyahu to convince them to undermine the president.