Quote:It's not about taking sides. It's about diplomatically attempting to resolve an issue. Bibby offered no solution because he does not want one. All he did was convinced a large group of republican congressmen to write a letter to Iran informing them any deal they reach with the president will not be honored once he is out office.
Think about that.
A foreign leader has convinced our congressmen to actively sabotage negotiation efforts by our country with another foreign country. That's insane.
It's not insane at all when the target country shouldn't be negotiated with, in this case when those negotiations will end up with an Nuclear Iran. Letting that happen would be insane.
Quote:It's not insane at all when the target country shouldn't be negotiated with, in this case when those negotiations will end up with an Nuclear Iran. Letting that happen would be insane.
Why should they not be negotiated with? The current leader is much more moderate than the previous one.
Can you provide evidence these negotiations will end up with a Nuclear Iran? The Mossad leaks seem to suggest Bibi is making it all up every time he suggests they are close.
I don't have a problem with using diplomacy with Iran, however that diplomacy becomes ineffective when we go in with our eyes closed and pretend Iran isn't trying to develop weaponized nuclear technology.
Quote:I don't have a problem with using diplomacy with Iran, however that diplomacy becomes ineffective when we go in with our eyes closed and pretend Iran isn't trying to develop weaponized nuclear technology.
Leaks of Mossad documents show his rhetoric on the topic is extremely over inflated if not actually lies.
I don't think anyone is pretending they are not at all. I think people are saying it's not as dire as Bibby has convinced the sheep in congress it is. Undermining negotiations....
Quote:I don't have a problem with using diplomacy with Iran, however that diplomacy becomes ineffective when we go in with our eyes closed and pretend Iran isn't trying to develop weaponized nuclear technology.
And its 6 years now Iran has been using Obama as a puppet, with no clear incentive to be transparent with their Nuclear program.
Quote:And its 6 years now Iran has been using Obama as a puppet, with no clear incentive to be transparent with their Nuclear program.
Along with the other nations involved in various forms of negotiation? Regardless what's you point and or suggestion?
Quote:Along with the other nations involved in various forms of negotiation? Regardless what's you point and or suggestion?
Iran along with the middle east still and will continue to try and use terrorism to seize control of Israel that is their goal. Diplomacy stopped working 36 years ago with the Islamic revolution.
You cant have a rational discussion with RADICAL Islamist who want to spread their ideology throughout the world.
I suggest Obama start using common sense and back Israel 100% publicly and financially.
Quote:Iran along with the middle east still and will continue to try and use terrorism to seize control of Israel that is their goal. Diplomacy stopped working 36 years ago with the Islamic revolution.
You cant have a rational discussion with RADICAL Islamist who want to spread their ideology throughout the world.
I suggest Obama start using common sense and back Israel 100% publicly and financially.
Oh so war, with the whole middle east. Setting off even more extremism and more hatred towards Israel and the west. That's a fantastic short sided idea. Why talk when you can keep the cycle of war and terrorism going.
One thing that looked pretty pathetic was the way the attendees were falling all over themselves trying to get a hug, handshake or selfie with Bibby. It looked like 14 year olds at a Bieber concert, instead GOPers at a Bibby concert. Hope Boehner didnt get rug burns.
The Mossad indeed said Bibby was over reaching. He did claim the same thing in 1996. He is in an election year, it was a campaign move. It may work. It worked for W when our safety as a nation was about to collapse.
Peace in the Middle East? Muslims hating Jews? Hell, the Muslims don't like each other, and they're not their " sworn enemy".
One is a dog, one is a cat.
Speaking of terrorists. Does anyone know who used and perhaps invented the first car bomb?
Quote:One thing that looked pretty pathetic was the way the attendees were falling all over themselves trying to get a hug, handshake or selfie with Bibby. It looked like 14 year olds at a Bieber concert, instead GOPers at a Bibby concert. Hope Boehner didnt get rug burns.
The Mossad indeed said Bibby was over reaching. He did claim the same thing in 1996. He is in an election year, it was a campaign move. It may work. It worked for W when our safety as a nation was about to collapse.
Peace in the Middle East? Muslims hating Jews? Hell, the Muslims don't like each other, and they're not their " sworn enemy".
One is a dog, one is a cat.
Speaking of terrorists. Does anyone know who used and perhaps invented the first car bomb?
George W won his second term not because of the safety of our nation, but because the Democrats chose an unlikable flip flopper to go against him. Edwards, in hindsight, was a bad choice for veep too. John Kerry had less charisma than a piece of cardboard.
First car bomb (according to wikipedia!) was done by Armenian separatists, though the concept has been around much longer than that. You have the Wall Street Bombing in 1920 and the Bath School disaster in 1927 (according to wiki it was likely the first suicide car bombing in history)
Quote:George W won his second term not because of the safety of our nation, but because the Democrats chose an unlikable flip flopper to go against him. Edwards, in hindsight, was a bad choice for veep too. John Kerry had less charisma than a piece of cardboard.
First car bomb (according to wikipedia!) was done by Armenian separatists, though the concept has been around much longer than that. You have the Wall Street Bombing in 1920 and the Bath School disaster in 1927 (according to wiki it was likely the first suicide car bombing in history)
Car bombing effectiveness and using a smaller one to attract people and then detonating a larger one was perfected by a future PM of Israel. One was King David Hotel, in 1946 I think it was. Jewish terrorists, dressed as Arabs blew it up. It'll never reach a peace accord there. Never.
But back to issue at hand. The GOP now writing a letter to Iran, stating that regardless of the agreement with the US, they can still nullify it. Wow. That's bull.
But the next POTUS won't, IMO. Hillary will stay the course. Say what you will, the GOP will implode once again and the she wolf takes the reins.
Not a fan of either, just a prediction.
Quote:Why should they not be negotiated with? The current leader is much more moderate than the previous one.
Can you provide evidence these negotiations will end up with a Nuclear Iran? The Mossad leaks seem to suggest Bibi is making it all up every time he suggests they are close.
I don't think the current Iranian leader is more moderate. He's more clever, which IMO makes him much more dangerous:
http://zoa.org/2013/07/10206203-new-iran...s-program/
Quote: I don't think the current Iranian leader is more moderate. He's more clever, which IMO makes him much more dangerous:
http://zoa.org/2013/07/10206203-new-iran...s-program/
Not debating what you're saying, just pointing out your supporting site has a clear bias, and goes as far to admit it in their about me.
Quote:Not debating what you're saying, just pointing out your supporting site has a clear bias, and goes as far to admit it in their about me.
My take is ZOA formed their position, in large part based on the facts that they presented in this article.
Now this I have a problem with
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/...aders.html
It's one thing to bicker amongst ourselves, to take political stands and go back and forth it's the nature of our republic. It's another to show two faces when trying to negotiate with foreign nations. Not only is stupid, it ruins the ability to do anything over seas. Regardless if we agree with Obama's deal those matters are to be addressed here at home, what purpose does it serve to send Iran a letter like this?
I'd like to know what republican idiots signed off on this. I know John McCain was one of them but I can't find a full list anywhere.
This is the perfect example of when stupid and partisanship cross paths, congrats republicans you just might blow the white house after all. smh I need a bigger bunker this ships going down.
Quote:Oh so war, with the whole middle east. Setting off even more extremism and more hatred towards Israel and the west. That's a fantastic short sided idea. Why talk when you can keep the cycle of war and terrorism going.
You really want to negotiate with ISIS and Al Queda who is performing a modern day holocaust?