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LOL.  The loo-loo hate from the usual suspects is always perplexing.  

 

He's nothing special, but finding another guy to rotate with Red is no simple "gimme."  He has value to the team and - while he'll probably test FA - I'd guess that the Jags are working to re-sign him in the neighborhood of  2.25 million per year.  

 

If someone overpays him, no one will be mourning the loss around here, but I'm not so sure there's a plug-and-play replacement for him out there for less money than that.  

 

My question is -  if Caldwell targets Red's eventual replacement in this draft - who are the candidates? 

 

Is Mario Edwards one of them?  Maybe Za'Darius Smith in the 3rd/4th round? 

Quote:Because no one offered any reasoning or anything.

You've yet to name a player who would be deemed as an upgrade at a similar price. Just saying "some guy" isn't much reason.

Quote:You've yet to name a player who would be deemed as an upgrade at a similar price. Just saying "some guy" isn't much reason.

Lol you are acting like it would be that hard to find a replacement. Figure it out yourself.

Quote:LOL. The loo-loo hate from the usual suspects is always perplexing.


He's nothing special, but finding another guy to rotate with Red is no simple "gimme." He has value to the team and - while he'll probably test FA - I'd guess that the Jags are working to re-sign him in the neighborhood of 2.25 million per year.


If someone overpays him, no one will be mourning the loss around here, but I'm not so sure there's a plug-and-play replacement for him out there for less money than that.


Personally I would love to see Caldwell mine a gem from the draft in the mid rounds (a la Linder/Telvin etc) that can quickly learn behind Red since he's nearing retirement.

Just what i want from this front office. For them to sign guys who are "nothing special."


Hard pass on resigning alualu. Let another team have the liability.

Quote:You've yet to name a player who would be deemed as an upgrade at a similar price. Just saying "some guy" isn't much reason.

lol Cory Redding and Robert Geathers.. That was tough. I used a draft pick/ veteran player example because it could literally be anyone, an undrafted rookie can play the same role as Alualu and I bet no one here would notice.

Quote:Just what i want from this front office. For them to sign guys who are "nothing special."


Hard pass on resigning alualu. Let another team have the liability.

 

Haha.  You realize that 80% of the guys that rotate with starters for every play-off team last year are also "nothing special" right? 

 

Every roster has boring role players, dude.  Your boy Tyson is one of them. 

Quote:Haha. You realize that 80% of the guys that rotate with starters for every play-off team last year are also "nothing special" right?


Every roster has boring role players, dude. Your boy Tyson is one of them.

Roy Miller is about the closest person on the planet to the definition of " nothing special ".


We are talking about a guy most agree isn't in the same realm as Miller.

Quote:Haha. You realize that 80% of the guys that rotate with starters for every play-off team last year are also "nothing special" right?


Every roster has boring role players, dude. Your boy Tyson is one of them.

Lol role player. Hahaha


What role is that. To do absolutely nothing.

Quote:lol Cory Redding and Robert Geathers.. That was tough. I used a draft pick/ veteran player example because it could literally be anyone, an undrafted rookie can play the same role as Alualu and I bet no one here would notice.

You just named 2 guys at the end of their careers, with one contemplating retirement and the other a shell of his former self. Then you have to project if they are even considered upgrades at 5 tech as I'm not sure if either have played the position in their respective careers. Keep digging.

Quote:Roy Miller is about the closest person on the planet to the definition of " nothing special ".


We are talking about a guy most agree isn't in the same realm as Miller.

 

I don't know, Joe.  Really it seems to me like you, trunt and a couple of others are the only one's that really share that opinion around here. 

 

He's a notch below Miller, but so are plenty of players around the league that play 30% of the snaps to keep the starter fresh. 

Quote:You just named 2 guys at the end of their careers, with one contemplating retirement and the other a shell of his former self. Keep digging.

Lol it's starting to look the end of Tysons career as well. We're not talking about a starter here. We are literally talking about a dude who rotated and played kickoff return. Who was outplayed by guys that are a "shell of their former self".


Sorry I don't know all of the midround/ undrafted/ veteran free agent Dlineman that would be available below 3.5mil/ a year off of the top of my head.


Keep grasping at straws.

Alulau is awful. I remember being at a game last year where he made a tackle for loss and honestly had forgotten he was still on the roster.

Quote:Lol it's starting to look the end of Tysons career as well. We're not talking about a starter here. We are literally talking about a dude who rotated and played kickoff return. Who played better than Alualu anyway.


Sorry I don't know all of the midround/ undrafted/ veteran free agent Dlineman that would be available below 3.5mil/ a year off of the top of my head.


Keep grasping at straws.

The only one grasping at straws is you buddy. No one in this entire thread has said Alualu is more than just a decent role player. He does his job, and at this point that's all you can ask. If they bring in someone they deem as an upgrade, there won't be any tears shed I assure you. But you're blind hate of him is obscuring the obvious.

Quote:I don't know, Joe. Really it seems to me like you, trunt and a couple of others are the only one's that really share that opinion around here.


He's a notch below Miller, but so are plenty of players around the league that play 30% of the snaps to keep the starter fresh.

Who is Tyson Alualu a "notch" better than currently, on the roster?


I'm done talking about how Alualu isn't good. I know that, everyone knows that, because it's been proven and is blatantly obvious.


I'm talking about not giving him 3.5/mil a year (which you agreed with) simply because he is here. Gus Bradley's always quotes competition, should that not count for everyone on the roster?

Quote:The only one grasping at straws is you buddy. No one in this entire thread has said Alualu is more than just a decent role player. He does his job, and at this point that's all you can ask. If they bring in someone they deem as an upgrade, there won't be any tears shed I assure you. But you're blind hate of him is obscuring the obvious.

Which one of my posts have contained blind hatred?


I haven't insulted the man, I have offered explanations of every judgement I've had on him (which included videos, quotes, and cited sources). They're are also quickly becoming the truth, as you, and other posters who have previously defended Alualu have now switched to the " oh now I don't care" line


Thinking he doesn't deserve 3.5mil/ a year is blind hatred? But you can you use your stupid " Hes's not Tebow" or the " anybody except Alualu" line?Sounds more like blind man-love to me.

Quote:Who is Tyson Alualu a "notch" better than currently, on the roster?


I'm done talking about how Alualu isn't good. I know that, everyone knows that, because it's been proven and is blatantly obvious.


I'm talking about not giving him 3.5/mil a year (which you agreed with) simply because he is here. Gus Bradley's always quotes competition, should that not count for everyone on the roster?

 

He's better rotation at 5 tech than McClendon is depth at C/G.  There's a few other such examples but the point is made. 

 

As I alluded to earlier - I'd like to see Caldwell go after the next Bryant in the draft (round 2,3,4, or 5). A guy that can take Tyson's job immediately and hopefully prepare to take Bryant's when he's done.

 

If that's not part of the plan for Caldwell's 2015 draft - I don't have a problem with Alualu continuing to spell Bryant (for less than 3 mil per year) - since there are several positions on the roster suffering more than the  (back-up) 5 tech end. 

Quote:He's better rotation at 5 tech than McClendon is depth at C/G. There's a few other such examples but the point is made.


As I alluded to earlier - I'd like to see Caldwell go after the next Bryant in the draft (round 2,3,4, or 5). A guy that can take Tyson's job immediately and prepare to take Bryant's when he's done.


If that's not part of the plan for Caldwell's 2015 draft - I don't have a problem with Alualu continuing to spell Bryant - since there are several positions on the roster suffering more than the (back-up) 5 tech end.

What has made him better than McClendon? Better yet, how long do you expect McClendon to stay around? I'm not being a wise [BLEEP] I'm being serious.


McClendon was seriously one of several roster moves by Caldwell in desperation from losing two centers above him, and more than likely will be cut before training camp. Do we aim that low to sign someone that MIGHT be one notch better than a guy we probably wouldn't have signed anyway without injuries to our starter/backups?


A backup DE is light years more important than a 3rd string guy that likely won't be on the roster, would you not want to upgrade that backup position? I know you don't really want Alualu back in the first place, but I'm just explaining to why I believe we should move on and find a better player.


Also, our Oline is in a lot worse shape than our dline, ESPECIALLY considering all of the FA/Draft rumors.

Wow alualu is considered better depth than mcclendon. Im sold now. Hahahhaaha

Would not Leonard Williams take Red Bryant's position if selected at Pick 3.

 

This talk of Marcus Mariota falling past Pick 2, is just that, talk, a total scam, BS or anything else that comes to mind.

 

The Titans will select Marcus Mariota, because no mater how dysfunctional the Titans are, they are not totally STOOPID.

Quote:Would not Leonard Williams take Red Bryant's position if selected at Pick 3.


This talk of Marcus Mariota falling past Pick 2, is just that, talk, a total scam, [BAD WORD REMOVED] or anything else that comes to mind.


The Titans will select Marcus Mariota, because no mater how dysfunctional the Titans are, they are not totally STOOPID.

So Alualu would then be a 3rd string DE that you would pay 3.5-4mil a year? I'm glad you know how the draft will pan out, because obviously nobody can trade up for Leonard Williams, widely regarded as the best player in the draft.


Thank lord you don't run a football team.