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Quote:It's not just that Tyson Alualu is bad, or the players he was drafted ahead of, it's that people still try to defend Alualu with things like:


"He's not great but he's not bad, he's a decent player!"

"He was overdrafted but he's not a bust"

"He's good against the run!"


Regardless, it seems he voided the final year of his contract. Don't know if this is his agent or what but:

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/AskAnNFLAgent/status/564784447820935168'>https://twitter.com/AskAnNFLAgent/status/564784447820935168</a>

Agreed.

Quote:Count me in as well.


I have a feeling the resentment towards Alualu has something to do with the Jags passing over Tebow for Alualu on draft day. Its the only logical explanation.

Yea, people that are still belly aching over a very serviceable Alualu are just gator homers still butt hurt over us not taking Tebow.


Personally, I cherish Tyson Alualu for nothing more than being anyone but Tebow.

Quote:Yea, people that are still belly aching over a very serviceable Alualu are just gator homers still butt hurt over us not taking Tebow.


Personally, I cherish Tyson Alualu for nothing more than being anyone but Tebow.

 

Case in point.

Quote:Yea, people that are still belly aching over a very serviceable Alualu are just gator homers still butt hurt over us not taking Tebow.


Personally, I cherish Tyson Alualu for nothing more than being anyone but Tebow.

This is a lazy analysis.


People don't like alualu because he blows.

Quote:This is a lazy analysis.


People don't like alualu because he blows.

Compare his stats to Red Bryant. No one is saying he blows.

Quote:Compare his stats to Red Bryant. No one is saying he blows.

Because he doesn't. Alualu does.

Quote:Because he doesn't. Alualu does.

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Quote:Compare his stats to Red Bryant. No one is saying he blows.

 

Tyson Alualu:

 

2010: 808 snaps -13.0 overall, -11.2 Run Def. 
2011: 875 snaps, -25.8, -17.7
2012: 847 snaps, -18.7, -11.1
2013: 754 snaps, -20.2, -6.3
2014: 471 snaps, -11.6, -2.9
 
Red Bryant:
 
2010: 291 snaps, +7.7, +7.5
2011: 724 snaps, -12.5, -0.3
2012: 734 snaps, -23.7, -11.9
2013: 561 snaps, +3.7, +7.7
2014: 536 snaps, -1.6, +12.8
 
What's step 2?

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Tyson Alualu:

 

<div>2010: 808 snaps -13.0 overall, -11.2 Run Def. 
2011: 875 snaps, -25.8, -17.7
2012: 847 snaps, -18.7, -11.1
2013: 754 snaps, -20.2, -6.3
2014: 471 snaps, -11.6, -2.9
 
Red Bryant:
 
2010: 291 snaps, +7.7, +7.5
2011: 724 snaps, -12.5, -0.3
2012: 734 snaps, -23.7, -11.9
2013: 561 snaps, +3.7, +7.7
2014: 536 snaps, -1.6, +12.8
 
What's step 2?
 

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Solid run stuffing numbers! 

#quality

Quote:Tyson Alualu:


2010: 808 snaps -13.0 overall, -11.2 Run Def.

2011: 875 snaps, -25.8, -17.7

2012: 847 snaps, -18.7, -11.1

2013: 754 snaps, -20.2, -6.3

2014: 471 snaps, -11.6, -2.9


Red Bryant:


2010: 291 snaps, +7.7, +7.5

2011: 724 snaps, -12.5, -0.3

2012: 734 snaps, -23.7, -11.9

2013: 561 snaps, +3.7, +7.7

2014: 536 snaps, -1.6, +12.8


What's step 2?

FWIW, he's trending upwards.

Only

 

Quote:FWIW, he's trending upwards.

 

Only looks that way because he got less snaps. 

Not understanding this if he cheap keep him.


You're telling me the best FA depth in the market is Alualu and that we are cash strapped?

I see Joe is still at his Alualu thread stocking schtick. Obsessed bro is obsessed. It was fun watching other posters point out flaws in Joseph's arguments and make him backtrack for the last three pages. Two thumbs up would recommend.


BTW I won't miss Alualu. He has been a non-factor since drafted. Joe will try to lead you to believe that I have been some adamant Alualu supporter, when in reality all I ever did was point out how embarrassing and pathetic it was that 85% of his posts were about the player. Ol' Joseph has been obsessed like a teenage girl for years.

Quote:You guys are ridiculous. There is 32 teams in the league. Let's say they all played a 4-3 defense (giving Alualu a break here). That makes 64 starting DTs in the league. Let's cut that in half. That makes 32. If there is 32 DTs better than him in the league that makes him BELOW AVERAGE.

 

 

Agreed. I'd like to see Alualu back if he's crawling on his knees after not being able to sign anywhere, but otherwise I'd prefer seeing him sign a nice, big contract somewhere else so the Jaguars might be able to get a comp pick.

Quote:The Guy had 30 tackles and 2 sacks in 2014.  It's almost impossible to replace that kind of production 

 

  

Quote:Tyson Alualu:

 

2010: 808 snaps -13.0 overall, -11.2 Run Def. 

2011: 875 snaps, -25.8, -17.7

2012: 847 snaps, -18.7, -11.1

2013: 754 snaps, -20.2, -6.3

2014: 471 snaps, -11.6, -2.9

 

Red Bryant:

 

2010: 291 snaps, +7.7, +7.5

2011: 724 snaps, -12.5, -0.3

2012: 734 snaps, -23.7, -11.9

2013: 561 snaps, +3.7, +7.7

2014: 536 snaps, -1.6, +12.8

 

What's step 2?

Red Bryant had 23 combined tackles and 1 sack in 2014. Just saying. Guess he won't be missed either.

Todd Walsh on Alualu:

Quote:*Wash said the team would like to have Alualu back next season. The 2010 first-round selection is scheduled to become a free agent. "We've talked and we would love to have Tyson back," Wash said. "He adds so many different things. He can play end. He can play three-technique. He can go in and rush in a need. He can be a big part of what we do next year." Wash said Alualu, who never has missed a game in five NFL seasons, has benefitted from moving to end from tackle, where he played his first three seasons. "He was healthy this year, and was very productive," he said. ...

Quote:Todd Walsh on Alualu:

He obviously has no idea what he's talking about. He's only a coach.

Quote:He obviously has no idea what he's talking about. He's only a coach.

:thumbsup:

 

He is a good player for what he does. Shows up every week. Very reliable. You have to have guys like him for depth not starting.

Quote:If we did not re sign him and Leonard fell to us. Our DT rotation would be absolutely nasty.

I hope this happens.  Leonard seems like the only one worth taking where we stand.

Quote:I see Joe is still at his Alualu thread stocking schtick. Obsessed bro is obsessed. It was fun watching other posters point out flaws in Joseph's arguments and make him backtrack for the last three pages. Two thumbs up would recommend.


BTW I won't miss Alualu. He has been a non-factor since drafted. Joe will try to lead you to believe that I have been some adamant Alualu supporter, when in reality all I ever did was point out how embarrassing and pathetic it was that 85% of his posts were about the player. Ol' Joseph has been obsessed like a teenage girl for years.

Lol sorry, I missed this post. I was actually wondering when you would show up. Im glad you did.

 

Funny, how did I back track? I said Alualu didn't ruin his career during the infamous Oklahoma that Jack Del Rio made him do. He didnt. In fact, here's the video http://youtu.be/jsAVksXC-ME

 

Some career ending knee injury. I dont doubt he hurt his knee eventually, all NFL players get banged up, but this whole Oklahoma knee blow out never happened. I have heard people blame Jack Del Rio for "ruining" Alualu's career with that Oklahoma.

 

Onto the surgery, it was a self described "minor" microfracture surgery on his knee. He had cartilage cleaned out because he was " playing through two years of NAGGING pain and OCCASIONAL swelling." (nfl.com).

 

Unfortunate? Absolutely. Did it effect his play? For a while. Did it ruin his career? Absolutely not. In fact, in 2012, Alualu pretty much agrees, " Last week's game versus the Colts was the best he's felt since he entered the league as the No. 10 overall pick in the 2010 draft." (rotoworld.com)

 

  He also states in 2013 that his knee was nearly 100%, saying, "I tell you what, it's been the best it's felt for the offseason, It's real close to 100 percent."  (nfl.com)

 

"We finally have Alualu at 100% " people like John O used to say, but of course, when things didnt pan out again, it was back to the ol' knee injury that "ruined" his career. Sorry, I dont buy it. Even Alualu said the surgery was minor, and that it was nearly 100%. This team has two Defensive lineman hurt, one with a devastating ACL tear, why hasn't Alualu been resigned? One of his strengths is versatility correct? He played just as much 3 tech as he did 5 tech last season, don't you think that resigning him would be a pretty big deal? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, our FO doesn't WANT to resign him?

 

Now onto you. I find it funny how you accuse me of being obsessed with Alualu, yet you couldnt stop talking about how " bad " Andre Branch was until he shut you up. Was I right about Alualu? Its looking like it.

 

Funny how things turn out, huh?