10-13-2014, 04:09 PM
10-13-2014, 04:10 PM
Quote:Yes. There's an entire draft I'm sure he'd like to have back.
An entire draft... or four.
10-13-2014, 04:12 PM
Quote:An entire draft... or four.There were a few decent picks peppered in there. Not enough to have an impact here.
10-13-2014, 04:17 PM
Quote:LOL. If you guys wanna cling to one ridiculous play that the officials screwed up on, then have at it. There's plenty of actual mistakes to whine about so what's one more fictional mistake I guess. *shrug*
Enjoy the added misery. I'll chalk that one up to the guys in stripes and Miller clumsily not retaining the ball when he fell on (at) it.
That is what I don't get with some people. There are so many things to complain about. Legit issues. Why cling to something so silly.
10-13-2014, 04:29 PM
I put this in another topic, but it fits here too.
Here's the thing. This is the first time I've logged into the forums since the BYE week last year. Did I expect us to make the playoffs this year? Nope. Did I expect us to even have a winning record? Nope. But I did however expect them to be better than last year and that is debatable. Its all about progress and realistically, were in the SAME spot we were in last year. I sat in LP Field yesterday and after the first drive, was seriously about to fall asleep because it was so boring. After CS3, fumbled, I left. Only to realize while walking to my car that we magically scored and got an onside. Yeah I missed the final moments of the game, but did it really matter? They failed to do anything for almost 3 whole quarters. I love the Jags(PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN I SHOULD), but this whole decade of rebuilding is getting out of hand. You're(the general you) asking a lot of your fanbase to continue to stick it out until the process is over. How long do we have to wait? I put so much into this franchise and often times feel like I'm getting nothing in return. I think Blake is the answer, but he is one guy, the rest of the majority is already supposed to be in place.All that Defensive overhaul to still be 32 overall and just plain bad. Yes, we are young and gaining experience and everything blah blah. I get that.
The problem is, watching this team go further and further downhill for the last 5-10 years, has begun to wear me down to the point that I do not enjoy Football anymore. I understand you have to rebuild and there are down years, but we've had down years since 2008. (Your looking at 6-7 by the time we become competitive on a weekly basis) They have sucked the joy out of it. I've done nothing but defend this team during the rebuilding process, I've stuck with this team since 94. I'm not expecting SB contention every year, heck I'd be happy with a playoff appearance consistently or you know a 7-9 record for once... When do the fans start to get rewarded for everything we've done? I've spent an enormous amount of money buying merch, traveling to games etc. to not be rewarded. Again. Blake is THE ANSWER. But do we seriously have to wait another 2-4 years to start building around him??
You make think it's selfish, but its not. Being a Jags fan has made me bitter and envious of most teams out there.
After that game, on my long drive home, in the pouring monsoon, I realized that 0-16 is not only possible, but probable. We have potentially 3-4 games that are even remotely winnable(on paper).
I've seen the answer at QB. He IS THE guy. Problem is, nothing else is.
Winning solves everything.
Here's the thing. This is the first time I've logged into the forums since the BYE week last year. Did I expect us to make the playoffs this year? Nope. Did I expect us to even have a winning record? Nope. But I did however expect them to be better than last year and that is debatable. Its all about progress and realistically, were in the SAME spot we were in last year. I sat in LP Field yesterday and after the first drive, was seriously about to fall asleep because it was so boring. After CS3, fumbled, I left. Only to realize while walking to my car that we magically scored and got an onside. Yeah I missed the final moments of the game, but did it really matter? They failed to do anything for almost 3 whole quarters. I love the Jags(PROBABLY WAY MORE THAN I SHOULD), but this whole decade of rebuilding is getting out of hand. You're(the general you) asking a lot of your fanbase to continue to stick it out until the process is over. How long do we have to wait? I put so much into this franchise and often times feel like I'm getting nothing in return. I think Blake is the answer, but he is one guy, the rest of the majority is already supposed to be in place.All that Defensive overhaul to still be 32 overall and just plain bad. Yes, we are young and gaining experience and everything blah blah. I get that.
The problem is, watching this team go further and further downhill for the last 5-10 years, has begun to wear me down to the point that I do not enjoy Football anymore. I understand you have to rebuild and there are down years, but we've had down years since 2008. (Your looking at 6-7 by the time we become competitive on a weekly basis) They have sucked the joy out of it. I've done nothing but defend this team during the rebuilding process, I've stuck with this team since 94. I'm not expecting SB contention every year, heck I'd be happy with a playoff appearance consistently or you know a 7-9 record for once... When do the fans start to get rewarded for everything we've done? I've spent an enormous amount of money buying merch, traveling to games etc. to not be rewarded. Again. Blake is THE ANSWER. But do we seriously have to wait another 2-4 years to start building around him??
You make think it's selfish, but its not. Being a Jags fan has made me bitter and envious of most teams out there.
After that game, on my long drive home, in the pouring monsoon, I realized that 0-16 is not only possible, but probable. We have potentially 3-4 games that are even remotely winnable(on paper).
I've seen the answer at QB. He IS THE guy. Problem is, nothing else is.
Winning solves everything.
10-13-2014, 04:32 PM
Well I was wrong about Miller. He definitely did go after it immediately. I guess I was just so fixated on how no one else made an effort.
Miller did good. Everyone else not so much.
Miller did good. Everyone else not so much.
10-13-2014, 04:34 PM
Quote:Well I was wrong about Miller. He definitely did go after it immediately. I guess I was just so fixated on how no one else made an effort.
Miller did good. Everyone else not so much.
Glad to see you being the bigger man. Maybe stroudcloud1 could learn a thing or two from you.
10-13-2014, 04:38 PM
Quote:I said it once before, You could of put a monkey in the draft room and let him pick up a random ball and would of done better than that.
Caldwell has not been great in the draft either. Bortles may save his job
I did a test a few years ago, and proved it. I even based it on Walterfootballs projections, and randomly selected a player by a roll of the dice.
Caldwell though has done well in the draft. Lee, Bortles, Robinson... Joeckel may not be great, but every GM has a couple of misses. Not to mention we had most of the same scouting staff as we did under Gene at the time (we no longer do!) A lot of the players starting are late round picks as it is. So we can't really say Caldwell hasn't been that great. And drafting Bortles is a big move.
10-13-2014, 05:20 PM
Improvement? Yes.........The opponents' receivers have only a 10 yard gap, down from 20 yards a few games back.
10-13-2014, 05:29 PM
Quote:Well I was wrong about Miller. He definitely did go after it immediately. I guess I was just so fixated on how no one else made an effort.I swear I wasn't trying to trick anyone. :thumbsup: I think it was Marks' hesitation to help secure the ball when he thought Miller had it (but he didn't) that gave many the impression of "no effort" on the play. There also was the one single whistle by whichever official was obviously thinking "incomplete pass" right away. I think that's why a couple of guys held back - even though they are taught not to in that situation.
Miller did good. Everyone else not so much.
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ON TOPIC: Another part of "the process." I mentioned we were better vs the run earlier, but thought I'd point out that we've gone from last to 19th vs the run. The Titans knew to attack the secondary but still rushed 20 times with 28 pass attempts - so it's not too lopsided. The run D is getting better. We are allowing an avg of 117 yds per game on the season - but in the last three games it's an avg of 77 yds.
10-13-2014, 05:29 PM
Quote:It's getting old. They need someone with experience. Higher a HC who's been one before. We are crawling with rookies everywhere. Owner/GM/Coaches/Players. It's showing big time.
Like who? Lemme guess, Gruden? Dungy? Cowher?
Chargers coach was a head coach before?
Titans coach was. How they doing?
Eagles was an NFL head coach before? How they doing?
Dallas' coach was a head coach before?
San Fran?
Baltimore?
Bucs? How the Bucs doing with that experienced head coach?
10-13-2014, 05:59 PM
Quote:I swear I wasn't trying to trick anyone. :thumbsup: I think it was Marks' hesitation to help secure the ball when he thought Miller had it (but he didn't) that gave many the impression of "no effort" on the play. There also was the one single whistle by whichever official was obviously thinking "incomplete pass" right away. I think that's why a couple of guys held back - even though they are taught not to in that situation.
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ON TOPIC: Another part of "the process." I mentioned we were better vs the run earlier, but thought I'd point out that we've gone from last to 19th vs the run. The Titans knew to attack the secondary but still rushed 20 times with 28 pass attempts - so it's not too lopsided. The run D is getting better. We are allowing an avg of 117 yds per game on the season - but in the last three games it's an avg of 77 yds.
There's also the possibility of a player locked in to his battle against an opposing player and not immediately realizing the football was even loose.
10-13-2014, 06:26 PM
Quote:LOL.....
Cleveland dropped 30 on Pittsburgh yesterday and blew them out....the same Pitt team that we couldn't get more than 9 points against the week prior.
Tennessee just beat us yesterday....
Here we go again with thinking playing close/ barely winning vs bad teams is impressive.
Gus has ZERO wins vs a quality opponent in 22 games.
As bad as Mularkey was, he beat a Colts team in 2012 that went to the playoffs that year.
With Gabba Gabba Doo at that.
10-13-2014, 07:25 PM
Mularkey was on the sideline yesterday. Grinning. Deservedly so. He got shafted.
10-13-2014, 07:34 PM
Quote:I swear I wasn't trying to trick anyone. :thumbsup: I think it was Marks' hesitation to help secure the ball when he thought Miller had it (but he didn't) that gave many the impression of "no effort" on the play. There also was the one single whistle by whichever official was obviously thinking "incomplete pass" right away. I think that's why a couple of guys held back - even though they are taught not to in that situation.
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ON TOPIC: Another part of "the process." I mentioned we were better vs the run earlier, but thought I'd point out that we've gone from last to 19th vs the run. The Titans knew to attack the secondary but still rushed 20 times with 28 pass attempts - so it's not too lopsided. The run D is getting better. We are allowing an avg of 117 yds per game on the season - but in the last three games it's an avg of 77 yds.
Yeah that was my bad.
10-13-2014, 08:55 PM
Quote: Not to mention we had most of the same scouting staff as we did under Gene at the time (we no longer do!)
How do you know this? Did Caldwell really revamp the scouting staff? Do you have a link?
10-13-2014, 09:41 PM
Quote:Yes. There's an entire draft I'm sure he'd like to have back.How about all 4 of his drafts. Lets get real, everyone who defended that idiot has egg all over their face
10-13-2014, 09:43 PM
Quote:How do you know this? Did Caldwell really revamp the scouting staff? Do you have a link?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/30/4285772/jaguars-changes-scouting-department'>http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/30/4285772/jaguars-changes-scouting-department</a>
10-13-2014, 09:54 PM
Quote: Not to mention we had most of the same scouting staff as we did under Gene at the time (we no longer do!)Caldwell had the option of replacing any and all of the scouting staff from the day he took over. If he chose not to do so, he became responsible for their performance. Their failure is his failure.
10-13-2014, 09:59 PM
Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/30/4285772/jaguars-changes-scouting-department'>http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/30/4285772/jaguars-changes-scouting-department</a>
Thanks.