Even if the Oline missed blocks, or the receivers ran the wrong routes, or if the RB missed a block, Henne should be able to adjust and throw the ball away. He should know where a checkdown is, or open field, or run.
A good QB can adjust to breakdowns of the play.
Regards......................the Chiefjag
Quote:The snapshots mid play are great and all but there are 22 guys flying around at insanely high speeds. Taking a dynamic game or play and breaking it down into a single static moment can't give you a real sense for what went on and makes it awfully easy to become an armchair QB. Henne sucked but the other 10 guys around him sucked just as bad and for the most part even more than he did on Sunday.
Exactly. I started to post this earlier, but didn't feel like getting flamed by HenneHateBrigade.
Screenshots without context are can be very misleading.
Quote:You missed my point. I'm not saying it's irrelevant who is at fault. I'm simply talking bigger picture than finding someone to blame for one game. Play calling and execution HAVE to be better. It's okay to let go of last week. Nothing is going to change about what happened.
2 games. Everything has to be better. It was a full team collapse.
Quote:The snapshots mid play are great and all but there are 22 guys flying around at insanely high speeds. Taking a dynamic game or play and breaking it down into a single static moment can't give you a real sense for what went on and makes it awfully easy to become an armchair QB. Henne sucked but the other 10 guys around him sucked just as bad and for the most part even more than he did on Sunday.
If a picture is "worth a thousand words" then actual coach's game film along with play called/audibled is "worth ten million words".
Quote:Even if the Oline missed blocks, or the receivers ran the wrong routes, or if the RB missed a block, Henne should be able to adjust and throw the ball away. He should know where a checkdown is, or open field, or run.
A good QB can adjust to breakdowns of the play.
Regards......................the Chiefjag
If it was that easy, QBs would never be sacked.
Quote:The snapshots mid play are great and all but there are 22 guys flying around at insanely high speeds. Taking a dynamic game or play and breaking it down into a single static moment can't give you a real sense for what went on and makes it awfully easy to become an armchair QB. Henne sucked but the other 10 guys around him sucked just as bad and for the most part even more than he did on Sunday.
The thing is other qbs makes these plays in these situations. Henne doesn't. And avoiding a sack should be second nature for a veteran qb and it's not like the areas Henne could have gone to were obscure. Hell he ran straight into defenders twice. That's all the sense I need.
Funny, seems like it took all of two games for the quarterback who was called Checkdown Chad by a few posters last season to be blamed for not throwing enough checkdowns.
I don't think anyone here doesn't want Bortles to eventually start. However there's a giant difference between giving the kid a fighting chance to learn on the job and sending him out there to try and survive.
While I do have an opinion on this, the relevant point is that it's irrelevant! The coach is going to say and do as he wants; he obviously has a reason for wanting to keep Henne in the game and he doesn't care if it 'harelips' every cowboy in Texas by doing it. The only thing that is going to get Henne out of the game is Henne getting injured. I hope no one on the page 'wants' that to happen.
No, it's not that there would NEVER be a sack it's that there wouldn't be 10!
Regards......................the Chiefjag
The coaches don't want to look incompetent so it is what it is. Picture this please......Blake avoiding 2-3 of those sacks.....pressure is not back to back because the defense has to respect the pass and watch for the run game to start up at any time........Different ball game so less pressure and pinning ears back on defense and a more competitive game. Make any excuses that you will but i digress.
I blame the other team for the sacks. We can't be better they need to get worse.
So after all the retooling, new players, new coach staff and millions upon millions that Khan has poured into this team......
for locker rooms, weight rooms, flying you around on a real airplane, buying anything you need to produce....
the Jags collectively , come up with a record number of sacks on a Jaguars quarterback and getting scored on at will for the last 6 quarters of football. Gentleman, you all should be ashamed. I like Khan's approach....I'll pay but you need to produce.
I love the Jags...But, instead of playing the blame game how about playing the "let's get better at football game."
Do what you have to do Jags, if not win the game, at least don't get your rear end kicked up and down the field.
I'll be at the SEZ.....please make us proud!
When the guys in charge say "Henne only responsible for one sack".... reminds me of "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan"
Quote:While I do have an opinion on this, the relevant point is that it's irrelevant! The coach is going to say and do as he wants; he obviously has a reason for wanting to keep Henne in the game and he doesn't care if it 'harelips' every cowboy in Texas by doing it. The only thing that is going to get Henne out of the game is Henne getting injured. I hope no one on the page 'wants' that to happen.
i do. every time he's out there stinking it up, i want someone to roll over on his ankle. not my fault they keep trotting him out there. not a serious injury, just one that will finally get him off the field. that may sound really bad, but it's their fault, they obviously wanted me to hate him.
Quote:I believe everything the coaches say.
I also believe that the moon is made out of cheese.
Yeah, it made out of Swiss cheese just like the Jags o-line.
"Coaches say Henne was responsible for only one sack on Sunday"?
I'd say the coaches are responsible for ten sacks on Sunday.
And Caldwell.
I hope this isnt a "keep on chopping wood" type of deal. I cant go through another episode of that.
Quote:I hope this isnt a "keep on chopping wood" type of deal. I cant go through another episode of that.
I had this same feeling but through all of the turmoil this year, i see a silver lining. The team is young with multiple promising young players on both sides of the ball. FA and the draft happen every year and this isn't the same type of roster needing a complete overhaul like the 06-07 team that started the free fall. Have Faith Go Jags
Quote:I had this same feeling but through all of the turmoil this year, i see a silver lining. The team is young with multiple promising young players on both sides of the ball. FA and the draft happen every year and this isn't the same type of roster needing a complete overhaul like the 06-07 team that started the free fall.
Yes. That's what I'm choosing to focus on. Of players on the roster 25 or younger - There is hope to be had in the following:
Bortles
Linder
Lee
Hurns
A Robinson
D Robinson
Cyprien
Ryan Davis
Gratz
McCray
Telvin Smith
Aaron Colvin
Ace Sanders
And there's a few more youngsters that are maybe slightly less promising, but could surprise us like, Abry Jones, Chris Smith, Bowanko, Tandon Doss (only 24), Damian Copeland.
That's a lot of young potential. If 6 of the 13 guys in that first list turn out to be quality starters going forward things will begin looking better IMO.