Quote:Hahaha,
These knuckleheads just keep making Shorts look better and better.
Keep showing up with that lunchpail, Cecil. We need ya'.
Only problem is that Cecil aint "showing up". He's been out hurt....again.
Of course when I talked about trading Cecil, Sanders was not suspended and both rookies were healthy.
Obviously things have changed, but I still don't see them rushing to resign Shorts to a big contract. Do you?
I'm wondering if they are going to wait and see if the rookies can shine, and if Shorts' injury-prone issues continue, then let him hit the market. If they do, everybody on here will then be screaming, "they should have TRADED him when they had the chance and could have got something for him!"
It's bad enough that this team has a history of problems with drug use at wr with an unfortunately long list of names going all the way back to jimmy smith. It's unfortunate that this happened so soon on the cusp of the Blackmon debacle.
It's unfortunate that this happened to a young man just starting out in his professional career.
It's depressing that with so much optimism at the start of a new season that this is the first thing that comes down the pike...
However... this is a grown man and responsible for his actions and the consequences of them. He was warned once by the NFL and didn't heed the warning. Ace Sanders may be a fairly nice guy, but being a 'nice guy' isn't what keeps you on the roster. Ace had at best only an average rookie showing last season. He isn't even at the same level as Shorts, and Shorts wasn't much to write home about last season. All he was going to be this year was a punt returner and wr back-up... maybe. But with this event, his stock just doesn't look like it's really worth the trouble to keep. Someone at his level of play is easily replaced.
I'm tired of starting each season with the news of one of ours being: A. busted for drugs. B. seriously injured in a bar fight. C. holding out for more money and stiffing the team and fans when their already being paid millions to play a kids game.
"Hopefully, somebody can help me out"? No, Ace. There's only one person who can help you out.
I believe Mike Brown can come close to filling is role, and I don't even know anything about Doss. Brown may not be as fast but he can catch from what I saw last year.
Quote:I believe Mike Brown can come close to filling is role, and I don't even know anything about Doss. Brown may not be as fast but he can catch from what I saw last year.
Yeah, me too. Like I said before, Brown is pretty much a lock to make the team now, IMO.
Sanders was about to be pushed way down the depth chart anyways, and Brown just jumped him as pass catcher, and Doss will be returner.
1. Shorts
2. Lee
3. Robinson
4. Brown
5. Doss
6. Sanders (susp/reserve)
Short, Lee, Robinson and Brown rotating in to run routes. Doss strictly Special Teams, unless injuries force him to get in on the receiving rotation.
Quote:Only problem is that Cecil aint "showing up". He's been out hurt....again.
Of course when I talked about trading Cecil, Sanders was not suspended and both rookies were healthy.
Obviously things have changed, but I still don't see them rushing to resign Shorts to a big contract. Do you?
I'm wondering if they are going to wait and see if the rookies can shine, and if Shorts' injury-prone issues continue, then let him hit the market. If they do, everybody on here will then be screaming, "they should have TRADED him when they had the chance and could have got something for him!"
I don't see them signing him to a BIG contract. But if he plays in all 16 games (or a number
really close to that) I can see him getting 3.5 or 4 mil a year for 4 years.
I am not concerned with "trade hindsight." I don't think his injury issues are that terrible and I don't think it's necessarily destined to be an issue moving forward. I just think it's wise to have a vet receiver for Bortles when he's ready and someone we
know can have a 100 yard game or two this year with Henne.
Quote:Rationalized like a true addict.
So someone who has a drink every day is an alcoholic right?
How about someone who drinks a soda a day? They are caffeine fiends right?
You know someone who smokes cigarettes? They are a dangerous nicotine addict.
This backwoods kind of thinking blows my mind
So...
Anyone think he's worth a 8th rounder in my fantasy draft?
Quote:You could have saved a lot of typing and just said you don't know anything about addiction.
Actually, I do. We don't all know what we do for a living on these boards, now do we?
Quote:Only problem is that Cecil aint "showing up". He's been out hurt....again.
Wait,?....as in recently? (OTA's)???
What's the chances he's not suspended? How often do these matters play out like that?
Quote:What's the chances he's not suspended? How often do these matters play out like that?
He is not appealing the suspension so the chances are nil.
According to the NFL drug policy he has a mandatory 4 game suspension.
Quote:Only problem is that Cecil aint "showing up". He's been out hurt....again.
Of course when I talked about trading Cecil, Sanders was not suspended and both rookies were healthy.
Obviously things have changed, but I still don't see them rushing to resign Shorts to a big contract. Do you?
I'm wondering if they are going to wait and see if the rookies can shine, and if Shorts' injury-prone issues continue, then let him hit the market. If they do, everybody on here will then be screaming, "they should have TRADED him when they had the chance and could have got something for him!"
He's fine. I actually saw him yesterday.
Quote:Kind of ignorant when you consider that all of those negative consequences are imposed by society rather than an effect of the actual use of the substance. Your line of thinking is exactly why marijuana and similar drugs that could actually be used medicinally continue to remain schedule 1 drugs here in the good ol' USA (and thus can't even be researched), while other progressive countries are using them for all kind of illnesses and pains. Luckily the few states that have legalized are seeing such huge tax income, as well as reduction in violent drug crimes, and many other benefits from it that states that aren't completely ignorant will not be far behind.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/medical...a/27089198
340 million per year estimated in Florida only.
The medicinal use of marijuana is one thing, the recreational use is another. In time, better alternatives to it's medicinal use will be developed, just as at one time heroin and cocaine were medically prescribed and better alternatives were developed. I utterly reject the 'mob logic' you seem to subscribe to; just because many people do things that are wrong doesn't make it right. No doubt you are right about the drop in violent drug crimes in states that have legalized it's use though. After all, if we make anything at all we want to do legal then we can't have criminals, can we!
But I digress... my intention wasn't to debate the use of marijuana. There are better forums for that. The bottom line is that Ace Sanders knowingly and repeatedly used a substance that is banned by the NFL. He was warned and continued it's use. The jag's are loaded at the wr position, so dropping Ace is no serious lose for the team.
Quote:The medicinal use of marijuana is one thing, the recreational use is another. In time, better alternatives to it's medicinal use will be developed, just as at one time heroin and cocaine were medically prescribed and better alternatives were developed. I utterly reject the 'mob logic' you seem to subscribe to; just because many people do things that are wrong doesn't make it right. No doubt you are right about the drop in violent drug crimes in states that have legalized it's use though. After all, if we make anything at all we want to do legal then we can't have criminals, can we!
But I digress... my intention wasn't to debate the use of marijuana. There are better forums for that. The bottom line is that Ace Sanders knowingly and repeatedly used a substance that is banned by the NFL. He was warned and continued it's use. The jag's are loaded at the wr position, so dropping Ace is no serious lose for the team.
But Gus said when he comes back he will be welcomed back with open arms. Since he will be coming back for game 5, to me, Gus is (inadvertently?) revealing that Ace will make the 53 man roster.
Quote:He's fine. I actually saw him yesterday.
Did he tell you he was at 91%?
Quote:But Gus said when he comes back he will be welcomed back with open arms. Since he will be coming back for game 5, to me, Gus is (inadvertently?) revealing that Ace will make the 53 man roster.
And now, perhaps Hurns, too. This is his opportunity.
I think Ace is going to have a good year. One of the few bright spots of last season. Hopefully this will all be put behind him and he can move on. Having said that the guys we've brought in are more than capable of picking up the slack. Ace wasn't a game breaker or anything. Next man up.
Can we cut all the WR's and put Marky Mark in? He looked pretty good in that movie...
Also, weed is not addictive. You heard it here first!