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I like Coach Coleson myself.......I like the way Doug put more responsibility on team captains. That in itself seemed to change the team and reduced some of the stupid mistakes. Some coaches just can't handle Head Coaching. Mike was one of them, supposed Jon isn't interested in coaching. I think too many people are stuck on what Tom use to do or once did but I don't think it will happen again. I think Doug should get a shot before anyone else giving this weekends game. If not me next, and will take much considerable advice from fellow fans. :yes:  

Quote:Their firing him?
End of contract
Quote:End of contract


Kubiak doesnt want him back?
Quote:Kubiak doesnt want him back?
I'll try to get the link at some point but what they were stating was his contract is ending and the game he got injured on the sideline, another coach caked the plays and did well....which if you're making a guess, it sounds like they're saying he's expendable. Would be a good hire in my estimation

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.profootballrumors.com/2016/12/wade-phillips-contract-set-to-expire'>http://www.profootballrumors.com/2016/12/wade-phillips-contract-set-to-expire</a>
Quote:I'll try to get the link at some point but what they were stating was his contract is ending and the game he got injured on the sideline, another coach caked the plays and did well....which if you're making a guess, it sounds like they're saying he's expendable. Would be a good hire in my estimation<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.profootballrumors.com/2016/12/wade-phillips-contract-set-to-expire'>http://www.profootballrumors.com/2016/12/wade-phillips-contract-set-to-expire</a>


If we get an offensive mind Id have zero problem.
Quote:I am not so sure that his work is terrific. He has a pretty loaded roster. He has kept them afloat despite no competent QB play, but I have been hearing he could be on the hot seat depending how this season ends. 
 

 IMO,  on the surface the Texans would be crazy if they let Bill O'Brien go.   I think he's a top 10 NFL HC,  especially when factoring in the work of his coaching staff.   if the Texans fire O'Brien,  Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell should be on speed dial to set up an interview and be prepared to make O'Brien an offer that would be difficult for him to turn down.

 

 Though i realize and respect there are different ways to look at the same set of data,  performance,  and circumstances,   the primary reason why i think Bill O'Brien has done a terrific job is the Texans have bottom 5 NFL collective QB play this season.   The difficulty to get to 9-6 under this circumstance is extremely high.   On top of that,  the Texans hardly had J.J. Watt this season.   He's probably been the best NFL Defensive player in the first half of this decade.   

 

 Since O'Brien has been in Houston,  he's hardly had J.J. Watt and Jadeveon Clowney available at the same time,  when both were relatively healthy.   Even with that and the QB position being light years from Pro Bowl caliber since he became Texans HC,  he's had 3 winning seasons and 2 division championships.    The Texans have had more than their share of injuries in recent years,  yet they have been a winning franchise each season O'Brien has been their HC.  
Quote: IMO, on the surface the Texans would be crazy if they let Bill O'Brien go. I think he's a top 10 NFL HC, especially when factoring in the work of his coaching staff. if the Texans fire O'Brien, Shad Khan and Dave Caldwell should be on speed dial to set up an interview and be prepared to make O'Brien an offer that would be difficult for him to turn down.


Though i realize and respect there are different ways to look at the same set of data, performance, and circumstances, the primary reason why i think Bill O'Brien has done a terrific job is the Texans have bottom 5 NFL collective QB play this season. The difficulty to get to 9-6 under this circumstance is extremely high. On top of that, the Texans hardly had J.J. Watt this season. He's probably been the best NFL Defensive player in the first half of this decade.


Since O'Brien has been in Houston, he's hardly had J.J. Watt and Jadeveon Clowney available at the same time, when both were relatively healthy. Even with that and the QB position being light years from Pro Bowl caliber since he became Texans HC, he's had 3 winning seasons and 2 division championships. The Texans have had more than their share of injuries in recent years, yet they have been a winning franchise each season O'Brien has been their HC.


I agree and I'm not saying I think he should be let go. Just that I heard it is possible.


There are reasons why it could make sense. The afc South has been terrible and the Texans roster is loaded. B. O. B. Is supposed to be a qb guru but he hasn't been able to really get any of the 5 or 6 guys they have given him to perform well enough to stick.
Just say no to Coughlin.  He was the right guy to start the franchise and had some great success in NY, but his time has passed.  Time to go in a new direction, not spend time looking in the review mirror.

Coughlin for HC only if we can't have him I'm leaning towards Teryl Austin

Quote:I agree and I'm not saying I think he should be let go. Just that I heard it is possible.


There are reasons why it could make sense. The afc South has been terrible and the Texans roster is loaded. B. O. B. Is supposed to be a qb guru but he hasn't been able to really get any of the 5 or 6 guys they have given him to perform well enough to stick.
 

  I'm not sure to what extent Bill O'Brien pushed for the Texans to sign Brock Osweiler to a lucrative contract.    It's very realistically possible this is the direction he wanted the Texans to go in.   Yet,  from a coaching standpoint,   O'Brien has had the least to work with at the QB position in the AFC South.  Despite that,  O'Brien has had the most coaching success in the division over the last 3 seasons.  
Quote:  I'm not sure to what extent Bill O'Brien pushed for the Texans to sign Brock Osweiler to a lucrative contract.    It's very realistically possible this is the direction he wanted the Texans to go in.   Yet,  from a coaching standpoint,   O'Brien has had the least to work with at the QB position in the AFC South.  Despite that,  O'Brien has had the most coaching success in the division over the last 3 seasons.  
 

Yes, but look at the competition. The tacks were in full blow-it-up-and-rebuild mode, the Jags were saddled with the worst coach in NFL history, and the clots were Andrew Luck (when he wasn't injured) plus 21 journeymen. Just about any coach not named Gus Bradley could take a fairly solid roster with a journeyman QB and have the most success in the division.

Quote:  I'm not sure to what extent Bill O'Brien pushed for the Texans to sign Brock Osweiler to a lucrative contract.    It's very realistically possible this is the direction he wanted the Texans to go in.   Yet,  from a coaching standpoint,   O'Brien has had the least to work with at the QB position in the AFC South.  Despite that,  O'Brien has had the most coaching success in the division over the last 3 seasons.  
 

True, but I actually attribute that mostly to the talent on the roster. The tinhorns have been winning in a very weak division on defense. I know you can't necessarily always polish a turd but he has had a lot of guys to try and work with at QB and he has not been successful with any of them. That is a bit of a concern for me. 
Quote:Also his success as a coach has been embellished since he joined ESPN. Gruden may prefer to have people think he's great coach while getting paid by ESPN to praise everyone under the sun than come back and have everyone find out he's actually pretty mediocre.
This.  He won his Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.  Other than that, just a quote machine.
Quote:Yeah.... the Pats fleece people all the time. Coaches, players for picks, etc etc

 

Although... it is always tempting that "this one" might bring the same Patriots way to the organization. That's why they keep getting hired.
 

Heheh.  The real Patriot way is Belichick and Brady.  You don't have either of those and there is no Patriot way.
Quote:TC is too old to run a football team but Donald Trump is not too old to run the U.S.?


Tom Coughlin has the energy of a man 25 years younger.


Regards....................the Chiefjag



Which is still 17 years older than me. Hire me. I'll be the lowest paid HC in the league for the next 30 years and still be younger than TC now. I'm in good health too!
Quote:Yes, but look at the competition. The tacks were in full blow-it-up-and-rebuild mode, the Jags were saddled with the worst coach in NFL history, and the clots were Andrew Luck (when he wasn't injured) plus 21 journeymen. Just about any coach not named Gus Bradley could take a fairly solid roster with a journeyman QB and have the most success in the division.
 

Quote:True, but I actually attribute that mostly to the talent on the roster. The tinhorns have been winning in a very weak division on defense. I know you can't necessarily always polish a turd but he has had a lot of guys to try and work with at QB and he has not been successful with any of them. That is a bit of a concern for me. 
 

  You both make good points.   Yet,  when a HC leads a team to 3 straight winning seasons and 2 divisional titles,   even in a division that hasn't been good the last couple of seasons,   from my perspective it's still an impressive accomplishment.    That much more when factoring in the Texans finishing all 3 regular seasons strong,   their MNF win at Cincinnati last season against an eventual division winning Bengals team,  and the win over the Chiefs earlier this season.  

 

   The Texans could easily be one and done again in the playoffs this season.    But if someone would have told me before the season how much Brock Osweiler would struggle and that J.J. Watt would miss the vast majority of the season,   a strong case can be made that Bill O'Brien and his staff got more out of this Texans team than a very high % of NFL coaching staffs would have.
I think McDaniels would be best for Bortles.
Quote:I think McDaniels would be best for Bortles.
How did he do in Denver?  I don't care NE that isn't as a hc. 
Quote:How did he do in Denver? I don't care NE that isn't as a hc.


Not the first HC to fail first go around and work out/do well the 2nd time...look around the league.
Quote:How did he do in Denver? I don't care NE that isn't as a hc.


He won a playoff game with Tim [BLEEP] Tebow
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