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Quote:I think his may have been different because of his first incident after he got drafted before signing his contract. Basically even though he wasn't "punished" by the league (I know his contract had different language because of it, but that was the team not the league), I think they used it against him in the appeals process.
The offense that occurred after he was drafted put him in the program. That was his punishment. It did allow the Jaguars to build wording into the deal to cover them in the event something like we're seeing now occurred, but it didn't impact the overall bottom line in his deal. His appeal was denied because he hadn't modified his behavior at all despite the expectation that he would. All of this is on Blackmon from the perspective of who is to blame.
Where I take issue with this entire process is the way they several all communication with the team. There needs to be a way for a player to work with the team to get the necessary help required to get him beyond this. Left to his own devices, he's going to be less motivated to do what needs to be done. He needs a more regimented environment.
I also think there's overkill in how the league handles substance abuse situations. If it's not a performance enhancing drug, but it's something that is legal, I think they're overstepping their boundaries for what they can do. I know it's that overbearing approach that ultimately got Matt Jones run out of the league. He was in the program, got suspended for the cocaine incident, and nailed again because he had a beer while playing golf with buddies. Really? That's the tipping point? It's ridiculous how the league handles these situations, and even more so that the NFLPA signed off on this approach. That whole process needs to be revisited and a new process endorsed because this just doesn't work.
Quote:I agree, there seems to be a certain faction of fans who feel they have a right to know the details. The bottom line is it is none of our business, and the less we know, the better it is for Blackmon. The purchase of a season ticket does not grant one the right to be informed of everything regarding the franchise. Sometimes we have no choice but to trust the process.
Agreed. There is a certain level of confidentiality that is required by law, and just because you're a fan of a certain team, that doesn't give you full access to the intimate details of every player's personal life.
Quote:I just don't get the concern over the secrecy here. Is it going to make a difference to anyone if they know the intimate details of what he's got going on?
Ditto. I think people are disappointed that there isn't more to the story that's already been out there.
Therefore, they let their imaginations fill in (what they perceive as) the blanks.
When there's something to report I'm sure it'll make Twitter, NFL.com, PFT, and everywhere else. But there's nothing to report.
Quote:I agree, there seems to be a certain faction of fans who feel they have a right to know the details. The bottom line is it is none of our business, and the less we know, the better it is for Blackmon. The purchase of a season ticket does not grant one the right to be informed of everything regarding the franchise. Sometimes we have no choice but to trust the process.
when it comes down to personal issues like this that's how it should be. I still think it's funny people think there is a conspiracy here.
Quote:when it comes down to personal issues like this that's how it should be. I still think it's funny people think there is a conspiracy here.
People don't want to recognize there are laws in place to protect the private medical information not just for an NFL player, but for them too.
I need to know whether to draft him on my fantasy team!
Quote:I need to know whether to draft him on my fantasy team!
People don't play when it comes to their fantasy teams!
Quote:With the recent up-rise of talk about Blackmon, not only here, but in the media, I got to thinking something, and It's been nagging at me. What is the deal with all of the secrecy behind this suspension? First off, Why is this suspension so different from so many other suspensions, in that players usually get the freebie, then four games, then 8 games (or a season, I forget which), and so on and so forth. Blackmon went straight from a four game to an indefinite suspension. It seems to go against the grain of what is collectively bargained, or it's entirely possible that I am missing something. You look at the Browns player who, by my view, is certainly transgressing upon the rules of the NFL, yet the NFL is happy to keep everyone informed about what's going on there. With Blackmon, any information seems to be speculative at best, and everything concrete seems to have been sucked into a black hole, never to be seen again.
Some questions:
Why is there no information about what the suspension involved? Not necessarily specifics, but something informative that wouldn't violate the rights of the player.
Why is this indefinite suspension sitting so well with everyone? Not fans, but the team, the NFLPA, etc?
If they understand why to the point where they are satisfied with the parameters of the suspension, why can't they find a way to explain to the fans what's going on in a way that doesn't violate the CBA or the rights of the player or team or league?
In a nutshell, the NFL basically threw this guy into never-never land, and gave very little information about why, and for how long. I am by no means asking for them to reveal privileged information, but this whole air of nothingness bothers me, What bothers me more is the team's and the NFLPA's comfort with it. If they know something we don't, can't they find a way to shed a little light on this situation? They owe it to us in my eyes. This suspension seems out of the ordinary to me, and as such deserves at least some explaining.
Well said. And I agree. It's been bothering me as well especially on the way to work every morning on 1010XL when Jeff and Spencer go on and on about Gordon's case on the "Football FIx". Blackmon's suspension has been very low-key. But I would certainly like an explanation as well. Whether it's from the NFL, the Player's Association, or the Team. I am curious to know when/if he gets to come back as a Jaguar. And be all accounts, it's as if Caldwell is moving on from him like he never even existed. But the ordeal was and continues to be very odd.
Quote:Well said. And I agree. It's been bothering me as well especially on the way to work every morning on 1010XL when Jeff and Spencer go on and on about Gordon's case on the "Football FIx". Blackmon's suspension has been very low-key. But I would certainly like an explanation as well. Whether it's from the NFL, the Player's Association, or the Team. I am curious to know when/if he gets to come back as a Jaguar. And be all accounts, it's as if Caldwell is moving on from him like he never even existed. But the ordeal was and continues to be very odd.
You're not entitled to any explanation. You get that, right?
Inquiring minds want to know. It is strange to some of us that Blackmon's activities, or lack thereof, is not the interest of at least B-level media outlets.
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Quote:I'm not sure why so many people seem to have a problem with this. We're not being told anything because it's none of our business. That's how the league sees it, that's how the team sees it, and that's how the NFLPA sees it. And they all see it that way because they are required to.
These issues are personal and medical in nature and thus are not available to a gawking public which has no right to know. It's an issue between the NFL and Blackmon. While I suppose Blackmon could say anything he wants to, why should he? Anything he says will just raise other questions and it would be never ending.
While frustrating to fans, the union and league decided that this is the way they want to deal with this sort of stuff. I wouldn't be surprised that the next collective bargaining agreement makes some changes to the whole issue, especially in regards to "recreational" drugs.
MEDIA...
The Media is demanding questions along w/schepticle fans. Since there is no NEWS, news is created...
NH3...
Quote:I just don't get the concern over the secrecy here. Is it going to make a difference to anyone if they know the intimate details of what he's got going on?
Quote:I agree, there seems to be a certain faction of fans who feel they have a right to know the details. The bottom line is it is none of our business, and the less we know, the better it is for Blackmon. The purchase of a season ticket does not grant one the right to be informed of everything regarding the franchise. Sometimes we have no choice but to trust the process.
Here's a really cool idea then. Don't bother reading the thread.
Quote:Inquiring minds want to know. It is strange to some of us that Blackmon's activities, or lack thereof, is not the interest of at least B-level media outlets.
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TMZ isn't going all the way to OK to track down a guy who would be considered a minor celebrity at best.
Besides, I highly doubt he would tell them anything. If he wanted people to know what is going on he would release a statement.
Obviously he doesn't and that's his right.
Quote:Here's a really cool idea then. Don't bother reading the thread.
We need that "OklahomaJag" guy to run some recon for us in Stillwater and Ardmore.
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The "secrecy" is expressly stated in the collective bargaining agreement to protect players, has huge ramifications in potential litigation and involves a small army of lawyers. If information comes out about players in the program, it's not coming from the league.
Quote:You're not entitled to any explanation. You get that, right?
Nice Giff!!!
Justin Blackmon = illuminati
Quote:Justin Blackmon = illuminati
Justin Blackmon = Otis
Quote:Here's a really cool idea then. Don't bother reading the thread.
Unfortunately, as mods we're kind of required to read the threads. From there, it's a downward spiral.
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