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Quote:Why is that?

It bends but doesn't break.

Quote:The best defense is 4-3 cover 2 zone where the 4 down lineman can pressure the qb.  Which JDR tried to install but Smith and Harris kept acquiring scrubs.

 

 

Quote:It bends but doesn't break.

 

 

Yeah, it bends all the way down the field and into the end zone.

 

4-3 teams that rely on Cover Two are susceptible to a few things, and one of those things have really caught on in the League of late, the Tight End Seam pass. You flood one side of the formation which forces a Safety over, then you throw to the Tight End going up the seam on the weakside. Also, underneath routes can pile up yardage quick if you're dropping your LB's .

Quote:It bends but doesn't break.

I don't know. It sounds good but I remember those years watching the good teams be able to pick us apart all the way down the field. I think in this new NFL you have to be able to pressure the offense and make them get out of sync. You have to generate the sacks and picks not what for something to happen in your favor. I used to be huge on the bend but don't break style but I'm starting to warm up to this attacking style of defense. When you understand the gap assignments and line techniques being used it really does seem very good. You create the pressure you need with out sacrificing the coverage. 

 

And it allows you to be multiple. That's the key. Maybe the Brady's, Brees' and Peytons' can decipher your defense but the other 29 qbs won't. If you are not playing a hall of fame caliber qb then most likely you are making it very tough on the opposing qb. 

Quote:Why is that?

Because it works on Madden duh.

Quote:Because it works on Madden duh.

For real lol

He is trolling all of you

Quote:Now we just need a GUS Linebacker.

Nice BUT...


I'm leaning toward having an "JAG" LB...


NH3...

I'm Sooooo Luvn this ENTIRE offseason that I could just Split My Wig... W/all of the new additions such as the Owner's vision, the President's wisdom, the GM's eye for talent, the Coache's enthusiasm, the Player's talent while throwing in the JUMBOTRONS...


I think I'm in OVERLOAD People... This "OTTO" position may be trend setting to say the least. Bradley has built upon the creation of an creator thusly making him a re-creater...


Improvment...


Improving Every Day says he...


Building the foundation or should I say building An Empire...


As always at this time of year I'm out there but for some reason I have the feeling of actually arriving to the Next Level...


I'm Sooooo Luvn this Gus ("OTTO") Bus...


NH3...

Quote:Thanks for posting and come back often! Your post has helped this Defense / Defensive Philosophy to crystallize in my head a little more. When the team signed Dekoda Watson, they stated that they liked him at Strongside Linebacker but would also use him to pass rush. Now that you've stated that the SAM and LEO are interchangeable players, this makes more sense to me.

 

I agree with the article that stated the OTTO LB is an effort to bring a "46" flavor to the Defense, but it's a bit difficult for me to visualize this using just four DL (counting the LEO as a DL). It's going to be a lot of fun to watch this Defense develop.

Thanks for the welcome!

 

I'm not X's and O's expert, but to help with you visualizing this defense, I can share my idea of what changes Gus may be describing with the "otto" linebacker that will play closer to the line of scrimmage on the edge. Granted each defense is different, but I think Jacksonville's and Seattle's defense will be similar next year. 

 

Last season, the Jaguars looked to have played a mix of 4-3 over and 4-3 under, but I'd expect Jaguars to play a lot more 4-3 under only, as it puts the SLB/OTTO closer to the LOS as more of a threat to pass rush (base defense only).

 

You can expect the LEO and SLB to change it's responsiblities out of this defense which, by design, is meant to creat pass protection indecision for the Oline and confusion for the quarterback. Below is Seattle's blend of the 4-3 under hybrid w/ 3-4 "bear" front look.

 

Here the SLB rushes and the LEO dropbacks in coverage in its hybrid 4-3 under:



 

Here, the SLB and LEO drop into coverage in a more 3-4 "bear" front look.



 

I think the main thing to come away with is that the OTTO will be a mutli-use weapon on defense that can do it all and that the LEO will no longer just have the one job only..to rush the QB, but will drop into coverage on occasion from both a 2-point and 3-point stance.

Quote:Thanks for the welcome!


I'm not X's and O's expert, but to help with you visualizing this defense, I can share my idea of what changes Gus may be describing with the "otto" linebacker that will play closer to the line of scrimmage on the edge. Granted each defense is different, but I think Jacksonville's and Seattle's defense will be similar next year.


Last season, the Jaguars looked to have played a mix of 4-3 over and 4-3 under, but I'd expect Jaguars to play a lot more 4-3 under only, as it puts the SLB/OTTO closer to the LOS as more of a threat to pass rush (base defense only).


You can expect the LEO and SLB to change it's responsiblities out of this defense which, by design, is meant to creat pass protection indecision for the Oline and confusion for the quarterback. Below is Seattle's blend of the 4-3 under hybrid w/ 3-4 "bear" front look.


Here the SLB rushes and the LEO dropbacks in coverage in its hybrid 4-3 under:



Here, the SLB and LEO drop into coverage in a more 3-4 "bear" front look.



I think the main thing to come away with is that the OTTO will be a mutli-use weapon on defense that can do it all and that the LEO will no longer just have the one job only..to rush the QB, but will drop into coverage on occasion from both a 2-point and 3-point stance.

That's great defense. Ran perfectly. Got me excited!

So he's basically what they call a "rush and cover" backer.

Quote:So he's basically what they call a "rush and cover" backer.

Yeah that's probably the best way to describe it, though I think there will be more importance on controling the edge and rushing the QB than playing in coverage.

I don't know how well Dekoda Watson covers, but I'm assuming they won't ask him to play a lot of man to man with the receiver-type tightends of the league.

Quote:Thanks for the welcome!

 

I'm not X's and O's expert, but to help with you visualizing this defense, I can share my idea of what changes Gus may be describing with the "otto" linebacker that will play closer to the line of scrimmage on the edge. Granted each defense is different, but I think Jacksonville's and Seattle's defense will be similar next year. 

 

Last season, the Jaguars looked to have played a mix of 4-3 over and 4-3 under, but I'd expect Jaguars to play a lot more 4-3 under only, as it puts the SLB/OTTO closer to the LOS as more of a threat to pass rush (base defense only).

 

You can expect the LEO and SLB to change it's responsiblities out of this defense which, by design, is meant to creat pass protection indecision for the Oline and confusion for the quarterback. Below is Seattle's blend of the 4-3 under hybrid w/ 3-4 "bear" front look.

 

Here the SLB rushes and the LEO dropbacks in coverage in its hybrid 4-3 under:



 

Here, the SLB and LEO drop into coverage in a more 3-4 "bear" front look.



 

I think the main thing to come away with is that the OTTO will be a mutli-use weapon on defense that can do it all and that the LEO will no longer just have the one job only..to rush the QB, but will drop into coverage on occasion from both a 2-point and 3-point stance.

 

The expansion of roles allows different "looks" from the same personnel lineup.

 

Especially when teams go no-huddle... you are flexible enough match up with what they might be doing.

 

You can also turn it into a hybrid of a nickel if that OTTO is fast enough to play like a safety.  Instead of a third corner, you could consider him being a third safety.  Ultimately you'd want to sub in a corner but if you face a team that breaks formations on early downs into something that tries to put you in a bad position, then you're better prepared to defend it.

 


 

 

 

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http://profootballspot.com/_/nfl/afc-south/jacksonville-jaguars/leo-and-otto-why-jaguars-fans-should-know-them-r3019



http://www.chatsports.com/jacksonville-jaguars/a/Jaguars-will-run-more-BEAR-front-on-defense-introduce-the-OTTO-linebacker-2-9867200



 

 

The different roles on Jaguars Defense:



 

Leo- role stands for Lineman, end open.



                Leo is the 3^rd
down rushing end position, hybrid DE/OLB pass rusher (Chris Clemons mentor), Andre Branch, Ryan Davis, Chris Smith.

                Requirements for role – weight 240 to 265 pounds, runs fast, set a decent edge in run game & creates a pass rush!



 

“He needs the ability to be a great pass rusher,” Bradley said via the Florida Times Union  “You’re looking for a traditional right end but with great speed and get off [at the snap]. He can be a little bit lighter than most 3-4 defensive ends.”



 

OTTO

– role stands for (used to be strong-side linebacker) primary job
to hold the edge against the run on early downs, then provide more of a pass rush & side to side coverage on 3
^rd downs.
  LaRoy Reynolds, Dakoda Watson, Telvin Smith. 
Similar to the Jack LB of the old Bears 46 made famous by 1985 DC Buddy Ryan.


 


"It's something that's new to us, so formulating exactly what he's gonna be. But, it's gone really well and our guys have adjusted to it and our guys are excited about it," Babich continued. "He can be strong or weak and most of the time he's going to be on the line of scrimmage, standing up."



 


 

Depth at OTTO?



LB Marcus Whitfield: He can play the Jaguars' new OTTO position, which makes him a valuable insurance policy in case Dekoda Watson or LaRoy Reynolds get hurt – Mike DiRocco ESPN