Quote:Branch isn't a true LEO, nor is he a five-tech end, so his skill set doesn't translate perfectly to this defense.
That said, the kid stepped up last year and showed that he could ball. There's usually a roster spot available for guys like that.
That's what I'm thinking as well. He may not be a perfect fit, but there's a way to utilize those talents. I think they liked the progress he made late last year, so there's no rush to unload him.
Quote:Of the UDFA, Reynolds, Cobb, Jensen and the DT could all stick.
What Loston?
Dont be suprised if Jones who signed with the Bears ends up here also.
Quote:why on earth would they cut branch when he looked like he was on the way up last year. I can kind of see Alualu but we need the depth and Its not like he's a bad player. Furthermore I think that after being around Clemons and Bryant they'll help him develop.
The only people is usually see wanting to run Branch off are Alfie and his minions. They defend Alualu yet want Branch and Poz released. :wacko:
Quote:The only people is usually see wanting to run Branch off are Alfie and his minions. They defend Alualu yet want Branch and Poz released. :wacko:
Its the same thing we're seeing with people saying Shorts should be traded/cut.
Quote:Its the same thing we're seeing with people saying Shorts should be traded/cut.
The only reason I can think people wanting Shorts traded would be to get something for him incase he demands a big contract next year. He's the only proven WR on our roster.
Quote:apparently everyone hates shorts now that we drafted two WRs. Can't read a topic without someone asking for much longer shorts will be on the roster
If you are talking about me, I"ve never really been much of a fan, that said, I freely admit he's been better than I assumed he'd turn out to be.
That said, I am not sure he's in their long term plans. His contract is expiring at the end of this season and I could very well see him moved prior to final cuts, if anything - to get themselves a 3rd, or 4th rounder in the 2015 draft to start that process of building the stockpile, much like they did with the Monroe deal.
Think about the numbers.
Robinson, Lee, Shorts, Sanders, Brown, Doss, Blackmon?, Copeland?...
If Copeland shows anything at all in this exhibition, I could easily see Caldwell move Shorts prior to final cuts.
Shorts is a prior regime guy, and not a player that I believe Caldwell sees as "must keep".
If an opportunity arises to get a draft pick for him prior to setting the final 53, I see the possibility.
I also think Doss is going to pleasantly surprise.
doss is not going to be doing much more wr work than Osgood did when he was here.
Cecil is the only guy on this team who has produced. The only scenario I can see where he would be moved would be the trade deadline if the jaguars have no shot and there is a team desperate for a wideout. That's where you would get the most value.
Quote:doss is not going to be doing much more wr work than Osgood did when he was here.
Cecil is the only guy on this team who has produced. The only scenario I can see where he would be moved would be the trade deadline if the jaguars have no shot and there is a team desperate for a wideout. That's where you would get the most value.
Uh, no. Osgood simply wasn't that good of a WR. Terrible comparison.
Doss actually had been trending up as a WR the past couple seasons. He's only 24 as well. I think he had a 100 yard game (or close) while subbing for one of Baltimore's injured starters last year.
Quote:Uh, no. Osgood simply wasn't that good of a WR. Terrible comparison.
Doss actually had been trending up as a WR the past couple seasons. He's only 24 as well. I think he had a 100 yard game (or close) while subbing for one of Baltimore's injured starters last year.
Quick google and he had a 99 yard game.
Osgood had a 92 yard game early in his career on only 2 receptions.
I liked Doss coming out but so far he's been a good special teamer that occasionally plays WR...much like Osgood
Quote:Quick google and he had a 99 yard game.
Osgood had a 92 yard game early in his career on only 2 receptions.
I liked Doss coming out but so far he's been a good special teamer that occasionally plays WR...much like Osgood
I remember that game. It was against Green Bay. I watched it because we played at 4 that day.
Quote:Quick google and he had a 99 yard game.
Osgood had a 92 yard game early in his career on only 2 receptions.
I liked Doss coming out but so far he's been a good special teamer that occasionally plays WR...much like Osgood
Ok....lol....if you want to compare Osgood to Doss, or think thats all Doss will amount to, go right ahead....
Quote:The only reason I can think people wanting Shorts traded would be to get something for him incase he demands a big contract next year. He's the only proven WR on our roster.
For a team that is flush with cap space, I'm thinking the move to beat him to a contract negotiation would be silly. Cross that bridge when we get there. In the meantime, you trot him out there and demand a certain level of production. In the end, if he delivers, he'll get paid.
Quote:What Loston?
Dont be suprised if Jones who signed with the Bears ends up here also.
I'd be surprised at this point. It sounds like there was interest there, but the Jags didn't offer much in way of compensation if the radio reports this morning were correct. The Bears beat them with the money from the undrafted pool. If he's released, they'd probably kick the tires.
Quote:For a team that is flush with cap space, I'm thinking the move to beat him to a contract negotiation would be silly. Cross that bridge when we get there. In the meantime, you trot him out there and demand a certain level of production. In the end, if he delivers, he'll get paid.
If the Jags already didn't have the numbers at WR, I wouldn't be suggesting it.
I see them keepting 5 WR on the 53 man roster.
Lee and Robinson are likely here, same with Doss as they just signed him, that leaves likely 2 spots. Sanders is very likely to get one of those, so thats 4....one left.....in which Brown, Copeland and Shorts will be vying for the spot. If Copeland or Brown show anything close to what Shorts is, I think they move Shorts, with the expiring contract in mind. ANd I didn't even mention Blackmon...and if they get some good news on his future between now and then.
Quote:Ok....lol....if you want to compare Osgood to Doss, or think thats all Doss will amount to, go right ahead....
I never said or implied that's all he'll amount to.
I said SO FAR, he's been a good special teamer that occasionally plays WR. Which is true.
I also pointed out similar games they had early in their careers. So lol all you want you clearly missed the point.
Quote:If the Jags already didn't have the numbers at WR, I wouldn't be suggesting it.
I see them keepting 5 WR on the 53 man roster.
Lee and Robinson are likely here, same with Doss as they just signed him, that leaves likely 2 spots. Sanders is very likely to get one of those, so thats 4....one left.....in which Brown, Copeland and Shorts will be vying for the spot. If Copeland or Brown show anything close to what Shorts is, I think they move Shorts, with the expiring contract in mind. ANd I didn't even mention Blackmon...and if they get some good news on his future between now and then.
I think Shorts winds up remaining on the roster. Especially if we don't expect to have Blackmon back this year. They need veteran leadership with an actual track record on the field.
Quote:I think Shorts winds up remaining on the roster. Especially if we don't expect to have Blackmon back this year. They need veteran leadership with an actual track record on the field.
WHat they also could do - tying in with something you or someone else said earlier...
They could initially keep Shorts as one of the 5, placing Copeland on the PS, and then around the deadline move Shorts and call up Copeland, to take the spot - this if Copeland looks promising in camp/ exhibition.
I'd imagine Mike Brown would not be eligible for the PS anymore.
Quote:WHat they also could do - tying in with something you or someone else said earlier...
They could initially keep Shorts as one of the 5, placing Copeland on the PS, and then around the deadline move Shorts and call up Copeland, to take the spot - this if Copeland looks promising in camp/ exhibition.
I'd imagine Mike Brown would not be eligible for the PS anymore.
And that would depend on how well the team is doing. If they're playing well, and they're vying for a playoff spot, the front office isn't going to be inclined to trade a player who would presumably be a contributor in that run.
Quote:And that would depend on how well the team is doing. If they're playing well, and they're vying for a playoff spot, the front office isn't going to be inclined to trade a player who would presumably be a contributor in that run.
Thats probably true too.
I'm not expecting playoffs this year.
Here's the conundrum....
WHat if they are not "mathemetically" eliminated, but sit at 3-4 ish?? Is that really going to keep them from dealing Shorts? I'd kinda hope not.
If we are sitting at 5-2, then I get it. Keep Shorts.