So the rumors are that the Bills and Lions are interested in trading up to #3 to draft a receiver. This likely would net us a 2nd rounder ("bargain price"). Is it worth it? Are there 9-10 elite talents in the draft worth taking over one you could pick at #3. I'm not so sure there is. If certain players like Mack, Manziel, or Evans aren't there at #9 or #10, I'd almost prefer trading down again over picking at 9 or 10.
The talent drop off is definitely there, but this draft is so deep that it may just be worth it to pick up a 2nd round pick. 3 picks in top 45 is pretty awesome.
Quote:So the rumors are that the Bills and Lions are interested in trading up to #3 to draft a receiver. This likely would net us a 2nd rounder ("bargain price"). Is it worth it? Are there 9-10 elite talents in the draft worth taking over one you could pick at #3. I'm not so sure there is. If certain players like Mack, Manziel, or Evans aren't there at #9 or #10, I'd almost prefer trading down again over picking at 9 or 10.
I think we end up playing them against each other until we get more than bargain prices, and if they don't bite, I just take Watkins.
After trading down, I think either Manziel of Bridgewater is the pick. If they're gone, I see Evans or Barr.
I'd be surprised if the Bills traded up. They're short on picks, and their team isn't talented enough to be tossing those picks away.
The Jags have said that dropping out of the top ten would take a future first-round pick, so I couldn't imagine the price for a drop to ten being low. Certainly a second-round pick and at least one other selection, possibly a third this year or a second next year.
I'm not opposed to trading down, because this is a solid first round and we could land a guy like Anthony Barr or Justin Gilbert there, but just taking a second-round pick to do it wouldn't be worthwhile.
don' give in to no bargain price. If they want Sammy make em pay.
Quote:So the rumors are that the Bills and Lions are interested in trading up to #3 to draft a receiver. This likely would net us a 2nd rounder ("bargain price"). Is it worth it? Are there 9-10 elite talents in the draft worth taking over one you could pick at #3. I'm not so sure there is. If certain players like Mack, Manziel, or Evans aren't there at #9 or #10, I'd almost prefer trading down again over picking at 9 or 10.
Why trade with Buffalo? Everybody should bar them and let Mack fall. I want to see what the Bills do with their own draft gem, Khalil Mack.
So Mack can have a bad day, you say?
http://youtu.be/zTPtgf0s4ew
If we trade down to 10, Odell Beckham is a name to watch out for. I like him as much as Watkins.
Quote:So the rumors are that the Bills and Lions are interested in trading up to #3 to draft a receiver. This likely would net us a 2nd rounder ("bargain price"). Is it worth it? Are there 9-10 elite talents in the draft worth taking over one you could pick at #3. I'm not so sure there is. If certain players like Mack, Manziel, or Evans aren't there at #9 or #10, I'd almost prefer trading down again over picking at 9 or 10.
The only reason there's talk about trading down is a futile sense to follow lousy, non-elite quarterbacks down diluting the value of the original pick each time.
Taking a pick destined for an elite prospect and sub-dividing it again and again just gives you a bunch of less talented players every time.
We already have a team full of less talented players. We need more talent, not more picks.
The more I watch Mack the more I hope the Jags don't draft this guy.
Per rotoworld. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Lions have "made it clear" to Clemson WR Sammy Watkins that they're "very serious" about potentially trading up for him.
Rapsheet has been beating the Watkins-to-Detroit drum for two months, and the player himself obviously believes it's a real possibility. We're typically leery of reports that so strongly link a team and player this team of year, but there appears to be some genuine smoke here. It wouldn't be a sensible move for a Lions team with a strong receiver duo, but many holes elsewhere.
Yes this could be a smokescreen, and yes the Lions could be asking for a bargain by trying to trade up with us, but this is right up our alley if it's true. The Lions could potentially be trying to do what the Falcsons did when they traded up for Julio Jones and pairing talent like Watkins with Megatron. I think Mayock said we would have to get the Lions 10th overall this year, 2nd round pick this year, and the Lions 1st rounder next year for a trade like this to be fair..
Quote:The only reason there's talk about trading down is a futile sense to follow lousy, non-elite quarterbacks down diluting the value of the original pick each time.
That's an excellent reason to stay put. If you're trading down, do it for the right reasons. Not to force a pick.
Quote:If we trade down to 10, Odell Beckham is a name to watch out for. I like him as much as Watkins.
I'd much rather have Evans than Beckham if he was still available.
Quote:I'd much rather have Evans than Beckham if he was still available.
He doesn't get past Buffalo.
Trading down to 10 would be very ideal. Not only would we get more picks for this year and next year, but players like Anthony Barr, Johnny Manziel, Blake Bortles, Mike Evans, or even Odell Beckham. To me, it's definitely worth it. I would love Ryan Shazier but it would be a reach to grab him at 10.
Not sure I would call moving to 10 ideal. But getting a first next would be.
Quote:The only reason there's talk about trading down is a futile sense to follow lousy, non-elite quarterbacks down diluting the value of the original pick each time.
Taking a pick destined for an elite prospect and sub-dividing it again and again just gives you a bunch of less talented players every time.
We already have a team full of less talented players. We need more talent, not more picks.
Well I'm with you to a point. But trading down may dilute the value at a premium position, but not at non-premium positions. I'm kind of meh on the trade. But I'm not totally against it either.
Quote:Not sure I would call moving to 10 ideal. But getting a first next would be.
It wouldn't be terrible either with how deep this draft is and how much talent there is in the 2nd round. I love Watkins/Mack, but if we do trade back, having 2 2nd's would be pretty awesome. At 10, we'd still be able to get a guy like Beckham or Barr if we go that WR/LEO route.
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Per rotoworld. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Lions have "made it clear" to Clemson WR Sammy Watkins that they're "very serious" about potentially trading up for him.
<div style="margin:3px 3px 3px 5px;font-size:12px;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Verdana;">Rapsheet has been beating the Watkins-to-Detroit drum for two months, and the player himself obviously believes it's a real possibility. We're typically leery of reports that so strongly link a team and player this team of year, but there appears to be some genuine smoke here. It wouldn't be a sensible move for a Lions team with a strong receiver duo, but many holes elsewhere.
Yes this could be a smokescreen, and yes the Lions could be asking for a bargain by trying to trade up with us, but this is right up our alley if it's true. The Lions could potentially be trying to do what the Falcsons did when they traded up for Julio Jones and pairing talent like Watkins with Megatron. I think Mayock said we would have to get the Lions 10th overall this year, 2nd round pick this year, and the Lions 1st rounder next year for a trade like this to be fair..
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This makes it very interesting.
Quote:Not sure I would call moving to 10 ideal. But getting a first next would be.
I agree with the last part.
I'd do it.
10 isn't that far to fall while still getting a 2nd this year and a future 1st rounder
Evans, Ebron, Gilbert, Barr could all still be there.
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Per rotoworld. According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Lions have "made it clear" to Clemson WR Sammy Watkins that they're "very serious" about potentially trading up for him.
<div style="background-color:transparent;margin:3px 3px 3px 5px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, Verdana;color:rgb(0,0,255);font-size:12px;">Rapsheet has been beating the Watkins-to-Detroit drum for two months, and the player himself obviously believes it's a real possibility. We're typically leery of reports that so strongly link a team and player this team of year, but there appears to be some genuine smoke here. It wouldn't be a sensible move for a Lions team with a strong receiver duo, but many holes elsewhere.
Yes this could be a smokescreen, and yes the Lions could be asking for a bargain by trying to trade up with us, but this is right up our alley if it's true. The Lions could potentially be trying to do what the Falcsons did when they traded up for Julio Jones and pairing talent like Watkins with Megatron. I think Mayock said we would have to get the Lions 10th overall this year, 2nd round pick this year, and the Lions 1st rounder next year for a trade like this to be fair..
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This would be a no brainer for the Jags