Quote:You won't get a Watkins level talent, no, but you'll get a starting caliber WR in the mid rounds.
We dont need a starting caliber WR, we have a few of those. We need that number 1 WR
Quote:We dont need a starting caliber WR, we have a few of those. We need that number 1 WR
I agree here.
We don't need just a guy that can beat out Mike Brown and be a "starter"...
We need a threat. A legit deep threat, one that can put up some points on the board.
Quote:Havent watched any lineman really. Who are some decent 3rd round prospects? I think a borderline #1 WR will be there in the 2nd and that will be too good to pass up. I was thinking Stork but thats really only based on other peoples rankings. Have no idea if hes actually any good or not.
Nah, Stork is a late rounder. He got the Mike Brewster known name/big school/successful team thing going on for a while. He falls apart fast under closer evaluation though, in very similar ways to Brewster too actually.
Swanson would be a good third round C. Brandon Thomas would've quite possibly been a 1st round guard if he didn't tear his ACL a couple weeks ago...so third round could be a steal for him down the road. Maybe Dozier or either Billy/Trai Turner. Halapio is a top 100 prospect if his medicals completely check out. I haven't watched him personally, but I've seen a lot of people I respect who really love Leno Jr in the third round. Plenty of good G options in the third round.
Quote:I agree here.
We don't need just a guy that can beat out Mike Brown and be a "starter"...
We need a threat. A legit deep threat, one that can put up some points on the board.
Yeah, and we need a good pass rusher too. The question is which maximizes value. To me I think you can get a WR who is very close to a #1 in 2nd round. There wont be very many high quality pass rushers in the 2nd round. So take A very good pass rusher and a good WR instead of a very good WR and a meh pass rusher.
Quote:Yeah, and we need a good pass rusher too. The question is which maximizes value. To me I think you can get a WR who is very close to a #1 in 2nd round. There wont be very many high quality pass rushers in the 2nd round. So take A very good pass rusher and a good WR instead of a very good WR and a meh pass rusher.
I think the guys that are legit #1 potentials are gonna be gone by 39.
We would be getting the 2nd tier guys, and I don't think that's gonna cut it on this team.
I also am thinking about this knowing in the back of my mind that we just signed Clemons, resigned Babin, and count of Branch continuing to get better. We are way more OK at pass rusher than we are at receiver.
On the surface, Khalil Mack seems like a terrific fit for the LEO position for the Jaguars Defense.
While I agree with those that expressed that it's very unlikely you are going to get a Sammy Watkins caliber WR after the 1st Round, the combo of Mack and a WR as the draft moves along seems like a better combo than Watkins and the edge rusher candidates that will be available later on in the draft. In general, it seems like the supply of edge rushers that can impact a game are far less than the demand in a typical draft.
Watkins imo is an elite prospect, I don't believe Mack is.
Quote:I think the guys that are legit #1 potentials are gonna be gone by 39.
We would be getting the 2nd tier guys, and I don't think that's gonna cut it on this team.
I also am thinking about this knowing in the back of my mind that we just signed Clemons, resigned Babin, and count of Branch continuing to get better. We are way more OK at pass rusher than we are at receiver.
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I just think a Watkins and Amaro would be
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I would be ok with Mack though
I could also see Mack as the perfect player that Gus falls in love with and uses in a lot of creative ways.
Have a specific defense catered around the strengths of our OLB/LEO Khalil Mack. And I think under Gus, he would continue to get better and be a force. So I would be OK with him at 3.
What would I do?
Draft Watkins and hope we can grab Attaouchu in the 2nd... draft a QB/C in the 3rd.
I think we are all just hoping the situation takes care of its self and we don't have to choose. Either Clowney is there and it's a no brainer or Clowney goes #1 and then rams take Watkins or Mack. Then we don't have to choose!
This way we don't have the "see I told you so " crowd.
Quote:I think we are all just hoping the situation takes care of its self and we don't have to choose. Either Clowney is there and it's a no brainer or Clowney goes #1 and then rams take Watkins or Mack. Then we don't have to choose!
This way we don't have the "see I told you so " crowd.
Hopefully our guy turns out to be the best so we can be that crowd for once.
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Quote:I think the guys that are legit #1 potentials are gonna be gone by 39.
We would be getting the 2nd tier guys, and I don't think that's gonna cut it on this team.
I also am thinking about this knowing in the back of my mind that we just signed Clemons, resigned Babin, and count of Branch continuing to get better. We are way more OK at pass rusher than we are at receiver.
Yes, but since Mack plays LB and not DE, he can be on the field at the same time as either Babin or Branch or Clemons. Imagine our pass rush then.
Quote:Yes, but since Mack plays LB and not DE, he can be on the field at the same time as either Babin or Branch or Clemons. Imagine our pass rush then.
To that, I would say - you don't draft a LB at #3 overall
Quote:To that, I would say - you don't draft a LB at #3 overall
You dont draft a non pass rushing LB #3 overall. Khalil Mack should be used primarliy as a pass rusher ala Von Miller. Those players are worth a high pick if they can get to the QB. Which Mack can.
Quote:You dont draft a non pass rushing LB #3 overall. Khalil Mack should be used primarliy as a pass rusher ala Von Miller. Those players are worth a high pick if they can get to the QB. Which Mack can.
Yeah, I agree there
As far as how the draft plays out in the first two rounds, I think we'll be good either way. If we go Mack there should be plenty of WRs at 39 and if we go Watkins I think one of Dee Ford, Jeremiah Attaochu, Demarcus Lawrence, Marcus Smith will be there.
I'm personally leaning toward Mack at the moment because I think that's the easiest way to make one side of the ball get in the green, so to speak.
Watkins would be cool too, but who is gonna get him the ball? I think for that reason his effect will be felt less.
Of course the above reasoning is only because I see both players as graded so closely. I'd be extremely happy with either one.
Quote:You dont draft a non pass rushing LB #3 overall. Khalil Mack should be used primarliy as a pass rusher ala Von Miller. Those players are worth a high pick if they can get to the QB. Which Mack can.
Mack is not as good as a pass rusher as Miller was but can do everything else better IMO. You have to get creative with Mack if we draft him.
Quote:You dont draft a non pass rushing LB #3 overall. Khalil Mack should be used primarliy as a pass rusher ala Von Miller. Those players are worth a high pick if they can get to the QB. Which Mack can.
Gotta agree here. You can't draft a Paul Posluszny at 3, but you can draft a Von Miller at 3.