Quote:Everything you just said about Henne could be applied to Gabbert...just saying. Add to the fact the last two years, Gabbert started the first half of the season (when every player had to learn a brand new offense, so by the time Henne was inserted into the lineup, every player was feeling more comfortable about the offense compared to week one...again, just saying.
Sigh.. Please leave Gabbert out of this convo, yes Henne is bad but Gabbert is in his own little world when it comes to bad, the guy made Jamarcuss Russel look decent.
Quote:Sigh.. Please leave Gabbert out of this convo, yes Henne is bad but Gabbert is in his own little world when it comes to bad, the guy made Jamarcuss Russel look decent.
Let me ask you what did gabbert do that makes you have such hatred towards him? So what he didn't work as a franchise qb out it happens to many nfl prospects but for you to say he's worse that jamarcus russell? You got to be freaking kidding me. Hell, lets just go a step further to make your childish point on this statement he's worse than akili smith, ryan leaf, tim couch, david carr, and andre ware. In your eyes he's the worse nfl qb of all time so my serious question to you is why do you feel this way?
Been too hard on Henne?
The way he gets talked about on this board you'd think he was actually a good QB and had been pulling a bad team into contention year after year.
The idea that fans have been too hard on him is laughable. He's one of the worst QBs in the league.
Let me say this for the record Swaguars i'm not a gabbert fan although like many jaguar draft picks i just wanted him to succeed here in Jacksonville so in turn we'll succeed as a franchise. On the other hand, what i can't stand is people like you that continues to pile on and diss this man when we all know as a fan-base his time here as a qb for this franchise is done. My friend rest in peace at night because believe it or not gabbert's play as a qb can't no longer haunt you.
Its funny seeing the "usual suspects" being the ones to lay the groundwork by defending Henne....
Its almost like they sense the Jags not going QB high in the draft, so they are in prep mode of brother-in-law'ing the organization (what else is new?)) Yet, they try to spin it as the people that have a bad opinion of Henne as "the bad guys".... Its laughable.
They can't just say it like it is. Henne is terrible - independent of our QB situation.
Quote:Its funny seeing the "usual suspects" being the ones to lay the groundwork by defending Henne....
Its almost like they sense the Jags not going QB high in the draft, so they are in prep mode of brother-in-law'ing the organization (what else is new?)) Yet, they try to spin it as the people that have a bad opinion of Henne as "the bad guys".... Its laughable.
They can't just say it like it is. Henne is terrible - independent of our QB situation.
The majority of responses in this thread have Henne tagged as terrible or a backup at best. So, not sure what you are pretending to see.
Quote:Its funny seeing the "usual suspects" being the ones to lay the groundwork by defending Henne....
Its almost like they sense the Jags not going QB high in the draft, so they are in prep mode of brother-in-law'ing the organization (what else is new?)) Yet, they try to spin it as the people that have a bad opinion of Henne as "the bad guys".... Its laughable.
They can't just say it like it is. Henne is terrible - independent of our QB situation.
Yeah. What's up with all the Henne love in this thread?
Oh, wait...
Quote:He's an okay back up, but he could also easily be upgraded.
Quote:Does it really matter who the backup is? The team is probably losing if Gabbert or Henne is in the game. Your mancrush on Henne is showing, he's not even worth making more threads about.
Quote:Is Henne good? No. Is Henne as bad as some make him out to be? No, but he's a below average QB who makes a pretty good back up.
Quote:We've won 6 games in two years with Henne starting most of them Too tough on him? Nah.
Quote:Henne gave us exactly what he is.. Back up play from a back up QB..
Quote:We used to be too tough on David Garrard for mostly the same reasons (granted, he always had a good running game), and he put up much better results than Henne with less talent at WR. Henne's lone accomplishment for the Jags is being slightly better than Blaine Gabbert. The criticism of Henne is fair.
Quote:Henne is awful. Sorry bro.
Quote:We've seen from Henne what they saw in Miami. He's inconsistent. He'll look good for 8 throws, and just when you think he's a good QB, he'll throw a pick or miss the receiver badly (and you remember why Miami let him go).
Quote:There are about 31 teams he wouldn't start for. He has never thrown 16 TDs in a season. He stinks on ice, regardless of his supporting cast. You could put him in Chip Kelly's offense and he still wouldn't get to 20 TDs. Being too hard? No. Being honest with ourselves. Yup. Why do these threads keep popping up. He's doo doo. Your eyes don't deceive you.
Quote:I really don't even want him as a backup because once you put him in the game you don't know which Henne you're gonna get.
You either get Henne that looks like he could be a good starter or Henne that's gonna just throw awful passes. .
Quote:Been too hard on Henne?
The way he gets talked about on this board you'd think he was actually a good QB and had been pulling a bad team into contention year after year.
The idea that fans have been too hard on him is laughable. He's one of the worst QBs in the league.
Quote:The majority of responses in this thread have Henne tagged as terrible or a backup at best. So, not sure what you are pretending to see.
Quote:Yeah. What's up with all the Henne love in this thread?
Oh, wait...
The fact that this thread exists and hasn't been merged into one of the other henne focused threads is already more love and attention than the guy deserves.
Nobody wears a Henne Jersey. Why? Because it doesn' t matter.
The biggest problem with Henne is that he is terribly inconsistent. There will be stretches during a game where he actually looks like a decent QB and is moving the team down the field, but inconsistent/bad Henne will show up and he will either have a ball batted down at the LOS, throw an INT, miss the receiver by 8 yds or take a sack, usually either taking the Jags out of FG range or making it a much longer FG then it should have been. One, or the other, of these happened way way way to many times during the season.
I realize that not every drive will end up in the endzone, but with Henne, there was just to many bad ending to what started out as promising drives.
You don't know which Henne is going to show up: He truly is a Dr. Jeckyl/ Mr. Hyde or should I say Dr. Jeckyl/ Mr. Henne??
Put 50% of current QBs on last years Jaguar team and results would be similar. Look how Eli fared with a weak surrounding.
Gabbert is starter at beginning. Best receiver suspended. Mojo a shadow of himself. Front line very mediocre at best. Gabbert hurt. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert hurt again. Enter Henne.
Hate him all you want, but the deck was stacked against him from the get go.
Anyone thinking Teddy, Johnny,Bortles,et al will immediately improve the team is delusional. In fact, my bet is on the drafted rookie sitting while Henne starts this season.
So complain all you want, we may see more of him
Quote:Put 50% of current QBs on last years Jaguar team and results would be similar. Look how Eli fared with a weak surrounding.
Gabbert is starter at beginning. Best receiver suspended. Mojo a shadow of himself. Front line very mediocre at best. Gabbert hurt. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert hurt again. Enter Henne.
Hate him all you want, but the deck was stacked against him from the get go.
Anyone thinking Teddy, Johnny,Bortles,et al will immediately improve the team is delusional. In fact, my bet is on the drafted rookie sitting while Henne starts this season.
So complain all you want, we may see more of him
The Jaguars have never had an elite QB. Maybe there's no elite QB available this year, but an elite QB on last year's team would compete for the division with the colts just like the colts competed with the texans last year once they got luck.
Henne is terrible. There is nothing else to be said. If he were good he wouldn't be a guy that has never thrown more TDs than INTs in a season.
Quote:The Jaguars have never had an elite QB. Maybe there's no elite QB available this year, but an elite QB on last year's team would compete for the division with the colts just like the colts competed with the texans last year once they got luck.
Henne is terrible. There is nothing else to be said. If he were good he wouldn't be a guy that has never thrown more TDs than INTs in a season.
Didn't say he was anything less than serviceable. However, if he was terrible he wouldn't be in the NFL, and certainly Gus and company wouldn't want to resign him.
IF we had an elite QB? Define elite? Russel Wilson? Kaepernick? Would those two led last years roster to championship games? Schaub was supposed to lead Texans to the big show and had talent surrounding him...what happened. Even the anointed one Peyton looked pedestrian in the Super Bowl.
This teams issues are far more than a substandard QB, is all I'm saying.
Quote:Henne has played with the two worst rosters in Jaguar history. He is better than most here give him credit for. Mostly by the same crowd that thinks getting a new QB will solve every problem with the Jags and magically propel them to the superbowl next year.
It's the typical cast of characters, and they're not hard to spot.
The best QB this franchise has seen is Mark Brunnell. I think getting a good QB will certainly solve a lot of problems. I haven't seen anyone claim what you are saying above. The best QB we have had in the last 14 years is David Garrard. Think about that. The reason QB's have failed here is because they haven't been very good
Quote:The best QB this franchise has seen is Mark Brunnell. I think getting a good QB will certainly solve a lot of problems. I haven't seen anyone claim what you are saying above. The best QB we have had in the last 14 years is David Garrard. Think about that. The reason QB's have failed here is because they haven't been very good
Exactly. E'nuff of the excusies about WR/ blah blah blah. The QB we had since Mark Brunell have largely been terrible. Mark Brunell himself, post knee injury was only a little bit better than average. Once Brunell lost his 1996 level mobility, he became much more pedestrian.
Garrard had one very good year, but the means was average.
I really really hope we seriously try to address QB this offseason, and from now on not neglect it in future years like we had been.
Quote:Didn't say he was anything less than serviceable. However, if he was terrible he wouldn't be in the NFL, and certainly Gus and company wouldn't want to resign him.
IF we had an elite QB? Define elite? Russel Wilson? Kaepernick? Would those two led last years roster to championship games? Schaub was supposed to lead Texans to the big show and had talent surrounding him...what happened. Even the anointed one Peyton looked pedestrian in the Super Bowl.
This teams issues are far more than a substandard QB, is all I'm saying.
There are a lot of terrible QBs in the NFL. What are you smoking?