Quote:I guess you don't get the NFL Network or are a crabby player agent.
You most likely already know the NFL employs a variety of NFL executives. They house an entire scouting cadre. They comply all the data necessary. They duplicate results in a standardized professional approach customary to the SAME methods used by NFL teams across the league.
No they don't. You simply made this up out of thin air.
They do not compile jack. They also don't employ a SINGLE NFL executive. They employ FIRED FORMER team employees who are now known as "On-air talent."
They may talk to people they used to work with. They may not. They might also read a scouting blog 15 minutes before air.
For certain, though, the NFL NW does not employ off air scouting. There is no method other than a particular individual's opinion being written down to generate hits to a website or increase viewership.
Quote:You always take the best player available regardless of what position that player plays. Why draft a less talented football player?
Fast forward to the draft....
Commissioner: "And with their final pick of the 7th round, the Jaguars have selected Robert Herron, WR from Wyoming."
Mayock: "Wow. Caldwell has shown us that he is a disciplined BAP-only drafter, as he has now chosen 10 WRs in this draft. With each pick, he chose the highest force ranked guy on his board without any consideration for need."
...of course this is unrealistic, as need is always still a component, even in more BAP disciplined draft strategies.
Quote:You always take the best player available regardless of what position that player plays. Why draft a less talented football player?
Picks are assets. You draft to covert the pick to a player.
Give me twenty dollars and I'll give you fifteen back. Is that OK?
By the same token, if your draft pick is worth twenty and you take fifteen instead, you've got less talent for your pick.
Caldwell took a far less talented football player then he could have. Why draft less talented players?
This is something you fail to grasp yet has been repeated over and over again. NFL ratings on players aren't the same as the Jags or any other team. They rate their own players.
I would also disagree with you with always drafting BAP. There are many examples why this method can produce less then adequate results. For example, you have a top 5 LT on your team who is top 5 at his position. The next year, you drafting at number 1 and your highest rated player is a LT. The next highest rated player is a DE. You need a DE and you don't need a LT. The DE will make your team better. The LT will sit on your bench or try to convert to RT which is a risk in itself. This is why you need a flexible GM. Also, it doesnt hurt to have common sense which you seem to severely lack.
Quote:Or until preseason is over and you have to cut a bunch of them...
IF fate can be so TWISTED to actually align the universe in such a way that the false frequencies our own tin-foil hat crowd member here suggests could produce a best available player regardless of position draft consisting of the selection of seven-consecutive tackles for the Jaguars, I will be more than happy to share the novel 9-2 offense play book
Quote:IF fate can be so TWISTED to actually align the universe in such a way that the false frequencies our own tin-foil hat crowd member here suggests could produce a best available player regardless of position draft consisting of the selection of seven-consecutive tackles for the Jaguars, I will be more than happy to share the novel 9-2 offense play book
Ahhh Jungle Kitty's dream offense - seven left tackles with Cody Green behind them.
Championship!
I thought they said last year they draft like this:
First 2, 3 rounds they look at the grades and compare the value to the pick. They then identify a handfull of guys they expect to be available and target them specifically (having targeting specific people that assumes that involves need/role, especially since they peg these targets as starter material.)
With the following picks, they go by the pool of picks at the top of the board. These players being part of a pool of guys with pretty much the same grade (which is how it works out with the volumes of guys that fit into the later round grades.)
But I could be completely wrong.
It's a BAP-centric concept that has an eye for need, and is open to finding value in guys they feel may be able to fill specific roles (Sanders, Robinson.)
Quote:Ahhh Jungle Kitty's dream offense - seven left tackles with Cody Green behind them.
Championship!
Yeah, nothing more chilling than the thundering sound of the herd of crazed jaguars, paws pounding the pitch as they are hurtling down the gridiron.
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Quote:I thought they said last year they draft like this:
First 2, 3 rounds they look at the grades and compare the value to the pick. They then identify a handfull of guys they expect to be available and target them specifically (having targeting specific people that assumes that involves need/role, especially since they peg these targets as starter material.)
With the following picks, they go by the pool of picks at the top of the board. These players being part of a pool of guys with pretty much the same grade (which is how it works out with the volumes of guys that fit into the later round grades.)
But I could be completely wrong.
It's a BAP-centric concept that has an eye for need, and is open to finding value in guys they feel may be able to fill specific roles (Sanders, Robinson.)
It was a real mess. It was clear after the second round that we still have major problems in our scouting department.
Gratz at face value was fifth or sixth round talent.
Sanders at face value was a sixth or seventh round talent.
Robinson at face value was perhaps a fifth round talent, but no proven ability to play any position.
All emblematic of Gene Smith's terrible drafts.
Quote:based on???
Duh, nfl.com grades
Get with the program.... We all knew this.
Quote:WUT?
Just corrected the post. I had some phone corrections. Anyways the gist is you can skin a cat many different ways. BAP drafting in the purest form is not a good philosophy.
Quote:All emblematic of Gene Smith's terrible drafts.
I think I get it.
You, along with TMD, believe that since virtually everything has changed within the organization, that nothing has changed.
Seems legit.
I'll never understand why some folks fear the future by focusing on the past. Complete disconnect.
You people need to stop responding to Jungle Cat, it's clear as day he's trolling everyone.
Quote:You people need to stop responding to Jungle Cat, it's clear as day he's trolling everyone.
I can get on board with this
Its funny to me that people like jungle cat are real people doing real things every day.
Quote:Its funny to me that people like jungle cat are real people doing real things every day.
I'm not so sure that applies to him or a half dozen other regulars here.
Quote:It was a real mess. It was clear after the second round that we still have major problems in our scouting department.
Gratz at face value was fifth or sixth round talent.
Sanders at face value was a sixth or seventh round talent.
Robinson at face value was perhaps a fifth round talent, but no proven ability to play any position.
All emblematic of Gene Smith's terrible drafts.
Why dont you go by CBS grading scale? According to them he was projected to go in the 3rd round