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People really think Manziel will succeed in the NFL??

 

He wont have Mike Evans to bail him out with those jump balls he throws and will struggle

Bortles declaring is one of the best things that could happen for the Jags.  It would pretty much guarantee we get our QB between Teddy, Johnny, and Bortles.

Quote:That video literally matters zero for scouting him.


No....we are talking just accuracy here....the charge is that he is inaccurate
Quote:Bortles declaring is one of the best things that could happen for the Jags.  It would pretty much guarantee we get our QB between Teddy, Johnny, and Bortles.


Correct!
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lol, Carr.....Yeah Carr will do good in drills with no pressure...but as we saw in the USC game, he will disappoint once the lights go on. 
I think this is the exact game that proves that bortles is better than Carr. Carr crumbled in his bowl game and was unable to rally his team back into the game. Bortles on the other hand threw two picks in a row, came out the next series, lost the ball again, then has led his team to take control of the game against a Great D, which he almost did against SC, and managed to do against the rest of the games on his schedule.  So from a poise standpoint and being able to play against good D's I put him above Carr, even if Carr is more accurate in that air raid offense. With all the running Bortles has been doing tonight as well I feel like he'll be better suited when it comes to taking a hit in the pocket and less blaine Gabbert. 
Quote:Where are you coming up with this....I've watched him all year....he's dead accurate. There's a video I posted in College Football. Manziel is throwing footballs thru basketball hoops from the top of A&M stadium. You can't have subpar accuracy and do that. Watch the dang video. The title is Manziel Trick Shots
 

That's cool and all, but padless trick shots with no pressure mean literally nothing.
He has a stupid name so he can't be good, it's the Blaine Gabbert effect. 

Quote:Manziel is a steal in the 2nd round, his upside is way more the Bortles


No it isn't. They both have the upside of a top 5 qb.
Quote:People really think Manziel will succeed in the NFL??

 

He wont have Mike Evans to bail him out with those jump balls he throws and will struggle


Where was Evans last night except making penalties?
Quote:No....we are talking just accuracy here....the charge is that he is inaccurate
 

The thing is that the video doesn't show how many times he missed before he actually made it.
Quote:No....we are talking just accuracy here....the charge is that he is inaccurate


A lot of QBs have accurate throws with no pass rush. Heck Gabbert looked like a changed man during practices. When it comes game time is what matters. Trick shot videos dont mean crap to an NFL scout.
Quote:No it isn't. They both have the upside of a top 5 qb.
No Manziel has way more upside,ask any NFL scout or GM
No to Bortles at #3… Rather take Clowney or Barr - assuming Teddy B is gone.

that play was so big ben/adam luck

Quote:People really think Manziel will succeed in the NFL??

 

He wont have Mike Evans to bail him out with those jump balls he throws and will struggle
Blackmon>>>>>>>Evans

 

Provided he gets his head straight. 
That side of Big Ben just showed itself on that last play

Quote:That's cool and all, but padless trick shots with no pressure mean literally nothing.


Man....what's with some of you guys....we're just talking accuracy......with pads and moving and under pressure, he has proved he is better than anybody when healthy
Bortles with another big play
Who was that kicker that got a chance to make a roster because of a trick shot video and then proceeded to be inaccurate and get cut?

Quote:No to Bortles at #3… Rather take Clowney or Barr - assuming Teddy B is gone.
Well a real NFL scout and GM pretty much just said on twitter the NFL draft board said he is a 2nd round pick, which means at best he can go in the mid first round, so if you draft him at 3 your a fool.
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