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he must just be lobbing passes into unknown coverage cause he can't see. he is just a really lucky guy. that is where his success comes from.

Quote:he must just be lobbing passes into unknown coverage cause he can't see. he is just a really lucky guy. that is where his success comes from.

 

Again, no ones saying the above. Doesn't mean that scouts don't have reservations about short QB with skinny frames. 

Quote:Again, no ones saying the above. Doesn't mean that scouts don't have reservations about short QB with skinny frames.

im saying it. if a guy is less than 6'4", its like playing with a blindfold and all the fat lineman block everything from view. like i said, its a miracle he has played well and im sure his luck will run out.

They've been trying to tear this kid down all season. Great kid from a humble background that is an all world talent. Then you see a brat like Johnny get propped up by the media all season, despite serious flaws in his game and the fact that every tackle he's ever played behind is a top 15 pick.

All year long, Teddy has been the savior in TMD's eyes.

 

Now that the season is finishing up, he is starting to have some reservations about him (his size) despite saying he'd still draft him.

 

Wanna bet as the months go on, TMD lists a few other reservations to hedge his bets either way.

 

If he succeeds, TMD will say he called it.  If Teddy busts, it'll be because of the "reservations" listed by TMD.  It's fun.

When I look at Teddy, he looks taller/bigger than Mark Brunell - who was listed at 6'1 and 217 lbs most of his career.

 

I think Teddy will be about 6'2 and 210 lbs.  Not big, but doesn't necesarilly have to be.  It's not like he's a running QB like RG3 or Manziel.

I hope the Texans and every team in the league thinks that he's too short. I'd love it.

 

I don't care if he gets measure at 4'10. He's the best QB in this draft.

Quote:All year long, Teddy has been the savior in TMD's eyes.

 

Now that the season is finishing up, he is starting to have some reservations about him (his size) despite saying he'd still draft him.

 

Wanna bet as the months go on, TMD lists a few other reservations to hedge his bets either way.

 

If he succeeds, TMD will say he called it.  If Teddy busts, it'll be because of the "reservations" listed by TMD.  It's fun.

 

 

Did I not say like every time, that I'd still draft him??? (at our pick) 

 

What more do you want?? :woot:

 

But his height/ build is a concern. 

 

That isn't exactly a new take by me either.....I said it months ago. 

Quote:A QB who is 6'1" gets discounted immediately by scouts because Drew Brees is a rare exception. In the last 10 years we've had 2 short QBs be successful in the NFL and teams will not risk a high pick on a guy who doesn't fit the template. Assessments of players are based on their weaknesses because NFL coordinators are adept at forcing you to do what you aren't good at, and a guy who doesn't do anything exceptional doesn't last.

 

Edit: I'm not saying TB is a guy who doesn't do anything great, just talking in general terms.

 

I am just saying Drew Brees proved height alone should not be a deterrant when a quarterback has everything else he needs.

 

Quote:They've been trying to tear this kid down all season. Great kid from a humble background that is an all world talent. Then you see a brat like Johnny get propped up by the media all season, despite serious flaws in his game and the fact that every tackle he's ever played behind is a top 15 pick.

 

You know what the critics said about Johnny Manziel?

 

He is too short and skinny lol. Same complaint people have now about Bridgewater. So we can't say one is better than the other because of his size.

 

Every year people do this.During the season, somebody is hailed as one of the best players. After the bowl games, everyone says something bad about him. How do the players typically pan out in the NFL after that happens?

Quote:When I look at Teddy, he looks taller/bigger than Mark Brunell - who was listed at 6'1 and 217 lbs most of his career.

 

I think Teddy will be about 6'2 and 210 lbs.  Not big, but doesn't necesarilly have to be.  It's not like he's a running QB like RG3 or Manziel.

 

Are you nuts? 

 

Bridgewater is a twig compared to Brunell. 

 

Brunell may only have been 6'1 or 6' 2" at best....but he was solid. Like 215 or 220. His legs weren't the toothpicks that Bridgewaters are. Brunell also was extremely strong for a QB. I think I read somewhere that he was a gym rat and big into the weightlifting back in his Jags playing days. 

Quote:Did I not say like every time, that I'd still draft him??? (at our pick) 

 

What more do you want?? :woot:

 

But his height/ build is a concern. 

 

That isn't exactly a new take by me either.....I said it months ago. 

 

No - I know... I'm just messing with you.  Just don't want you to hedge your bets and find some other "flaws" from Teddy soon so you can be right regardless of what happens.

 

I would love to get him.  I think he's going to be very very good. 

Quote:Are you nuts? 

 

Bridgewater is a twig compared to Brunell. 

 

Brunell may only have been 6'1 or 6' 2" at best....but he was solid. Like 215 or 220. His legs weren't the toothpicks that Bridgewaters are. Brunell also was extremely strong for a QB. I think I read somewhere that he was a gym rat and big into the weightlifting back in his Jags playing days. 

 

Who is to say Bridgewater won't be a gym rat?  I just don't see him being that fragile or that skinny.  He's long and kind of lanky, but he's also super young.  I was long and skinny at that age too, and I'm far from that now.  A few years of dedicated working out and eading well will get him bigger. 

 

To me though, the biggest issue is the QB style.... he doesn't run around like a chicken with his head cut off...  He should be fine, even if he stays at the same weight as he is now.  Smart QBs won't take huge hits. 

 

Think of Peyton Manning - the guy hasn't taken 5 bonecrushing hits in his entire career it seems.

Quote:Are you nuts? 

 

Bridgewater is a twig compared to Brunell. 

 

Brunell may only have been 6'1 or 6' 2" at best, but he was solid. Like 215 or 220. His legs weren't the toothpicks that Bridgewaters are. Brunell also was extremely strong for a QB. I think I read somewhere that he was a gym rat and big into the weightlifting back in his Jags playing days. 

 

I read Mark Brunell was one of the NFL's strongest players.

 

So maybe Teddy is tall enough and just needs to spend more time in the weight room.

Quote:Who is to say Bridgewater won't be a gym rat?  I just don't see him being that fragile or that skinny.  He's long and kind of lanky, but he's also super young.  I was long and skinny at that age too, and I'm far from that now.  A few years of dedicated working out and eading well will get him bigger. 

 

To me though, the biggest issue is the QB style.... he doesn't run around like a chicken with his head cut off...  He should be fine, even if he stays at the same weight as he is now.  Smart QBs won't take huge hits. 

 

Think of Peyton Manning - the guy hasn't taken 5 bonecrushing hits in his entire career it seems.

 

But its all about the frame. 

 

Bridgewaters frame is small. WHen you have a small frame, you can lift weights all you want, and the results are not only going to be limited, but you could set yourself up for an increased chance of injury if you overdo it. The frame can only support so much for what its built like. I hypothesize that a lot more of these injuries you see in the NFL today compared to the past is from overtraining past what your frame can handle. For those with naturally bigger frames, its less of a concern. Bridgewater's shoulders are very narrow. His bone structure is thin. He's 21. His frame isn't getting any bigger at this point. 

 

Granted, as you say, smart QB rarely take huge hits, so its possible that he (like Joe Montana, for example) will be able to enjoy a relatively major injury free career, for at least most of it. 

 

But it is at the least, a reasonable concern. 

Being underweight is the best problem a QB can have. Just have the dude eat some burger king for a summer and he can gain the 15 pounds he needs. 

Quote:Being underweight is the best problem a QB can have. Just have the dude eat some burger king for a summer and he can gain the 15 pounds he needs. 

 

Tell me you are being sarcastic.

Quote:Being underweight is the best problem a QB can have. Just have the dude eat some burger king for a summer and he can gain the 15 pounds he needs. 

Let's hope Bridgewater doesn't go Jamarcus Russell on us.

Quote:Being underweight is the best problem a QB can have. Just have the dude eat some burger king for a summer and he can gain the 15 pounds he needs. 

 

 

I don't see Bridgewater as being "underweight". Thats the point. For his frame - he's probably about where he should be at his age. 

Regardless of his talent, I'm sure scouts take into account that with his small frame, TB is just one good pop away from the IR.  You can say that about any QB, but he is definitely more susceptible.

Quote:Regardless of his talent, I'm sure scouts take into account that with his small frame, TB is just one good pop away from the IR.  You can say that about any QB, but he is definitely more susceptible.

 

But here is the thing: If Teddy has all of the tools necessary to avoid a sack either by running out of the pocket or quickly getting the ball out of his hand, he can stay healthy behind an upgraded OL. I think his intangibles will help him compensate for any problems having a small frame might cause.