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Regarding Brandon Pettigrew,  despite his stats not being close to stellar in 2013,  I'm of the opinion that he had his best season this year.  In the past and even early this season,  Pettigrew was very inconsistent in catching and holding on to the ball.  Fumbles were problematic.   From the 4th game on this season,  Pettigrew was the Lions most consistent player at the skill positions.  He hardly dropped any passes from that point forward and protected the ball once he caught it.   As a blocker,  both in-line and on the move,  Pettigrew was an asset.   He was greatly missed in last Sunday's OT debacle against the Giants.  

 

The question with Pettigrew is did the light come on in his 5th season or did he become more focused in his contract season???

 

The Lions very likely will have a coaching change.   It's hard to predict what the new HC and Offensive Coordinator will want out of the TE position.   Also,  unlike the Jaguars,  the Lions aren't in a favorable salary cap situation.   That's an understatement.   I want Pettigrew to be back with the team in 2014 but at this point in time it's impossible to predict what's going to transpire.

 

Because the Jaguars have a ton of cap space,  they have plenty of leverage in securing the TE position in 2014.   If Pettigrew hits the open market and by chance the Jaguars and Marcedes Lewis aren't on the same page,  it wouldn't surprise me if the Jaguars went after Pettigrew.  Especially since Jaguars Offensive Line Coach George Yarno saw Pettigrew in practice and games for 4 seasons.  Knowing that while the player was inconsistent at the time,  the all around skills were there.  

 

A related sidenote.  Don't be surprised if the Jaguars go after Lions T Jason Fox in free agency.   He won't cost much and when healthy has shown promise.   Yarno's input on Fox will certainly be asked by Dave Caldwell and Gus Bradley.

Quote:Oh you mean in the first six games?

Pure gold.

Done with him....there are options out there that other teams seem to find every year.

Quote:Done with him....there are options out there that other teams seem to find every year.

 

Yep, only odd people want Marcedes to return to the Jags with that ridiculous salary next year. 

I think he could be a big part of the offense with a good QB.  I don't recall any big drops out there this year.  I wish they had targeted him more and that he could have played the whole year.  I don't know why they waited....how many years...to start throwing the damn ball up for grabs in the end zone like they have the last few weeks.

 

Is he worth his contract, probably not.  But he's already signed so they might as well get something out of him.  I also get the feeling that Bradley likes him.  We'll see, I wouldn't be at all disappointed if they kept him.  You could do a lot worse....a lot.

Lewis is simply overpaid for his value to the team. Better off cutting him and spending the money shoring up the defense in free agency.  

 

Gene Smith simply didn't understand the concept of "value" and that's why he continuously overpaid mediocre players.  

Quote:Lewis is simply overpaid for his value to the team. Better off cutting him and spending the money shoring up the defense in free agency.

 

Gene Smith simply didn't understand the concept of "value" and that's why he continuously overpaid mediocre players.  

 

Do you realize how  much cap space this team has?

Quote:Marcedes sucked as a blocker last season, and early this season. per most accounts. 

 

So no, Marcedes hasn't "always" excelled as a blocker. Marcedes luver. 

 

 

Quote:Oh you mean in the first six games?

 

TMD, funny you didn't reply to this?

Quote:TMD, funny you didn't reply to this?

 

Hey I also said LAST year and early this year (meaning when he was playing) but as usual you try and craft the response to fit your argument. Obviously he missed some games early this season, genius. 

 

You are just trying to sidestep the issue that Marcedes blocking has NOT been stellar this entire time as that person was trying to assert. 

Quote:Do you realize how  much cap space this team has?

 

Oh, so then its okay to waste some of it. Gotcha. 

Quote:Lewis is simply overpaid for his value to the team. Better off cutting him and spending the money shoring up the defense in free agency.  

 

Gene Smith simply didn't understand the concept of "value" and that's why he continuously overpaid mediocre players.  

 

Precisely. 

 

Given how Caldwell found Marks for cheap, I'd bet he could adequately fill the TE need with a similar overachiever type for cheap, too. Or a draft pick, which again will be cheaper. 

Quote:Hey I also said LAST year and early this year (meaning when he was playing) but as usual you try and craft the response to fit your argument. Obviously he missed some games early this season, genius. 

 

You are just trying to sidestep the issue that Marcedes blocking has NOT been stellar this entire time as that person was trying to assert. 

 

He didn't play most of the first half of this season. You tried to slip in that little misinformation and probably assumed nobody would notice. You failed again buddy.

Quote:He didn't play most of the first half of this season. You tried to slip in that little misinformation and probably assumed nobody would notice. You failed again buddy.

 

I said last year and 1st half of this year. Yes he missed games. Was talking about when he actually played. BTW, him missing more time to injury isn't exactly helping the argument of the people that want to keep this player at the ridiculous level of pay he makes. 

Quote:Hey I also said LAST year and early this year (meaning when he was playing) but as usual you try and craft the response to fit your argument. Obviously he missed some games early this season, genius.


You are just trying to sidestep the issue that Marcedes blocking has NOT been stellar this entire time as that person was trying to assert.

When left in to block Marcedes has almost always held up his end. He's a reliable blocker. And since I can't multi quote from my phone I'm also replying to the post you called me Marcedes lover for making, in that post I admitted that he comes up short when asked to catch passes. I acknowledged both his strength (blocking) and probably his biggest weakness (catching) proving it's possible to talk about a player and their game as a whole instead of saying he sucks/has no value, etc.


Now the early this season part...he missed any part of this season that could be considered early with the exception of 3 or 4 plays.

Quote:I said last year and 1st half of this year. Yes he missed games. Was talking about when he actually played. BTW, him missing more time to injury isn't exactly helping the argument of the people that want to keep this player at the ridiculous level of pay he makes. 

 

He missed the first six games of the season aside from like 1 play against Indy. If that isn't "early in the season", what is?

Quote:He missed the first six games of the season aside from like 1 play against Indy. If that isn't "early in the season", what is?

 

He played in week 4, 7 & 8. I should have said 1st half of season rather than early season. Mis-worded. He didn't start to play better until sometime in the 2nd half. 

 

Either way this is just avoiding the main point that which is someone said that Marcedes "always" has been a consistently elite blocker and he has not been. Period. He's had long stretches where he's not been, including the 2012 season and parts of this one. 

There are so many things wrong with the team's performance the last two years and you are trying single out Marcedes Lewis' blocking? Agenda much?

Quote:There are so many things wrong with the team's performance the last two years and you are trying single out Marcedes Lewis' blocking? Agenda much?

 

I don't have much of an issue with Marcedes blocking at all. But when someone is going to come on here and LIE and claim that Marcedes blocking has ALWAYS been excellent, I'm not going to let that slide. 

 

I have much more of an issue with Marcedes as a passing weapon than his blocking. Bottom line with Marcedes is he's just not worth keeping at his salary. Period. 

Quote:I don't have much of an issue with Marcedes blocking at all. But when someone is going to come on here and LIE and claim that Marcedes blocking has ALWAYS been excellent, I'm not going to let that slide. 

 

I have much more of an issue with Marcedes as a passing weapon than his blocking. Bottom line with Marcedes is he's just not worth keeping at his salary. Period. 

 

I think it's 50/50 that he is back. I think the team probably asks him to re-work his deal. If you look at his actual salary, it isn't really that high until next season.

 

If you look at the free agent class, most guys are either way past their prime, coming off major injury or just not that good. I could see them drafting a guy but I doubt it's before round three or four.

Quote:He played in week 4, 7 & 8. I should have said 1st half of season rather than early season. Mis-worded. He didn't start to play better until sometime in the 2nd half. 

 

Either way this is just avoiding the main point that which is someone said that Marcedes "always" has been a consistently elite blocker and he has not been. Period. He's had long stretches where he's not been, including the 2012 season and parts of this one.

For someone who cries little a little female dog about people lying you sure are free and easy with the truth to abject troll levels.


Give an example of a bad game you saw, a game report or an article which criticised his blocking in the last few years. Simply claiming its a well known fact that his blocking has been poor in recent years isnt good enough when is the opposite of what I and everyone else commenting has seen.


You are trolling to save face after being shown up repeatedly... Again.