Quote:There was the lock-out. Weaver and Co. slashing Garrard to cut payroll effectively proving their football incompetence.
Yes, because Garrard was in a fit state to play following being cut by Jacksonville.
Oh no, wait a second. He wasn't, and as far as I can see never played another snap in the NFL, suffering from recurring knee problems that prevented him starting for the Jets just as it would have prevented him playing for the Jaguars. For all his merits, he was not worth having on the roster at that point, which is why he was cut.
Believing otherwise shows
somebody's football incompetence, but it sure as hell isn't 'Weaver and Co'.
Quote:Gabbert never had a chance here. Rabid Tebow fans angry, foaming at the mouth for not drafting their hero. Gene Smith and Wayne Weaver stabbing David Garrard in the back. Dirk the OC one year. Absolutely nobody at OC last year. Terrible college level OC this year.
There was the lock-out. Weaver and Co. slashing Garrard to cut payroll effectively proving their football incompetence.
Teddy Bridgewater will take one look at the draft order, see Gus and Dave grinning ear to ear, and he'll decide to play out his senior season at Louisville.
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Ok
(insert outraged response that JungleCat is trolling for)
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Yes, because Garrard was in a fit state to play following being cut by Jacksonville.
Oh no, wait a second. He wasn't, and as far as I can see never played another snap in the NFL, suffering from recurring knee problems that prevented him starting for the Jets just as it would have prevented him playing for the Jaguars. For all his merits, he was not worth having on the roster at that point, which is why he was cut.
Believing otherwise shows somebody's football incompetence, but it sure as hell isn't 'Weaver and Co'.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Garrard was the VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt. You don't cut your VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt because of injury even when it's a week before the start of the season, particularly when you have a rookie back up.
Garrard was expected to provide veteran leadership and mentor Gabbert during his long-haul development as an NFL player. This grooming is always expected to take three to five NFL seasons. Even if Garrard needed disc surgery and was placed on the IR, he would still be in the organization and on the sideline feeding Gabbert his knowledge of the game and the QB position.
The move to dump Garrard a week before the season started was regarded as a ridiculously stupid move by a sleezy, low class GM and cheap NFL owner. The NFL community was livid at the franchise for such a disgusting, disgraceful front office. It remains outrageous to this day.
It did nothing, but destroy any chance that Blaine Gabbert would develop into a pro player and trashed a solid veteran football player.
This stupid mistake was a major factor in the change of ownership and the long-anticipated removal of a totally incompetent front office regime. Weaver was simply the laughingstock for making yet another completely stupid football mistake.
Your short-sightedness is comical. David Garrard is providing VETERAN leadership on the New York Jets. Geno Smith is grateful to have old number nine supporting his development.
Of course, you have no idea how stupid it was for Weaver to fire Tom Coughlin as you have no idea what a shark-jump is or comprehend what it means in the future.
Quote:You have no idea what you are talking about.
Garrard was the VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt. You don't cut your VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt because of injury even when it's a week before the start of the season, particularly when you have a rookie back up.
I think you're confusing the role of coaches and players. Players play, coaches coach. Having a player on the roster who can not play and will most likely never play again is a bad idea.
I understand some people can find that a bit tricky to understand but it's okay, you'll get it one day.
Meanwhile, it's intriguing to note that you apparently believe that Blaine Gabbert would be an awesome starting quarterback if his backup were a mediocre ex-starter who can't actually play.
Quote:Gabbert sucks, a new situation won't magically change that, I'm sorry you have invested so much of your identity in his success, that you feel the need to lash out at anyone who was objective enough to see that he wasn't good from the start, and didn't improve.
Gabbert actually used to play better than he does now. I read a lot of armchair coaches' posts on why it was important for him to take more chances down the field, because, believe it or not, he wasn't throwing enough picks. The logic was that he was playing too "safe." Well, our wishes were granted.
I would love to see what David Shula could do with this kid. And Shula's not the only QB guru in the league. There will be more than one team willing to take a shot at him.
Sorry to all his haters, Gabbert will be in the league for a while.
I would start him here again the next few games. See if the light is on. If not and cant move the ball. I dont see him as a backup some where else.
Quote:You have no idea what you are talking about.
Garrard was the VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt. You don't cut your VETERAN starting quarterback with two separate playoff runs under his belt because of injury even when it's a week before the start of the season, particularly when you have a rookie back up.
Garrard was expected to provide veteran leadership and mentor Gabbert during his long-haul development as an NFL player. This grooming is always expected to take three to five NFL seasons. Even if Garrard needed disc surgery and was placed on the IR, he would still be in the organization and on the sideline feeding Gabbert his knowledge of the game and the QB position.
The move to dump Garrard a week before the season started was regarded as a ridiculously stupid move by a sleezy, low class GM and cheap NFL owner. The NFL community was livid at the franchise for such a disgusting, disgraceful front office. It remains outrageous to this day.
It did nothing, but destroy any chance that Blaine Gabbert would develop into a pro player and trashed a solid veteran football player.
This stupid mistake was a major factor in the change of ownership and the long-anticipated removal of a totally incompetent front office regime. Weaver was simply the laughingstock for making yet another completely stupid football mistake.
Your short-sightedness is comical. David Garrard is providing VETERAN leadership on the New York Jets. Geno Smith is grateful to have old number nine supporting his development.
Of course, you have no idea how stupid it was for Weaver to fire Tom Coughlin as you have no idea what a shark-jump is or comprehend what it means in the future.
Dude, Garrard got hurt. He didn't tell anyone he was hurt, and then lost his job in the preseason by playing God-awful.
Because he was hurt.
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David Garrard is providing VETERAN leadership on the New York Jets. Geno Smith is grateful to have old number nine supporting his development.
Yeah. Without Garrard's help, Smith might have been terrible yesterday.
Quote: Even if Garrard needed disc surgery and was placed on the IR, he would still be in the organization and on the sideline feeding Gabbert his knowledge of the game and the QB position.
thank you for providing comic relief for us in the absense of TMD, who I guess is banned again?
If Henne wins another game, we have to put Gabbert back in the lineup... we don't want to squander away our high draft pick.
Quote:If Henne wins another game, we have to put Gabbert back in the lineup... we don't want to squander away our high draft pick.
Don't worry, Henne won't win any games that Gabbert couldn't.
At this point the only reason to care about which one is in is either that you can't stand seeing more of checkdown chad or you just want to see Gabbert for reasons unrelated to football.
Quote:Gabbert actually used to play better than he does now. I read a lot of armchair coaches' posts on why it was important for him to take more chances down the field, because, believe it or not, he wasn't throwing enough picks. The logic was that he was playing too "safe." Well, our wishes were granted.
I would love to see what David Shula could do with this kid. And Shula's not the only QB guru in the league. There will be more than one team willing to take a shot at him.
Sorry to all his haters, Gabbert will be in the league for a while.
LMAO...not even Oklahomie's former self could defend this response.
we got that elusive first win, can we reinsert gabby and hope for something to turn on and maybe he can be a good back up. though i'd rather see stanzi get some playing, as for henne he is what he is and expecting a different result is just insane.
Quote:If Henne wins another game, we have to put Gabbert back in the lineup... we don't want to squander away our high draft pick.
3 teams with 2 wins ....Minnesota won't win another game based on their forthcoming schedule.
Quote:Gabbert never had a chance here. Rabid Tebow fans angry, foaming at the mouth for not drafting their hero.
Thanks Blaine for your input. Only fitting that our timid QB would cite Tebow as the reason for his failures.
If henne keeps this up, gabbert may see another game or two. Henne's been awful.
Quote:Gabbert actually used to play better than he does now. I read a lot of armchair coaches' posts on why it was important for him to take more chances down the field, because, believe it or not, he wasn't throwing enough picks. The logic was that he was playing too "safe." Well, our wishes were granted.
I would love to see what David Shula could do with this kid. And Shula's not the only QB guru in the league. There will be more than one team willing to take a shot at him.
Sorry to all his haters, Gabbert will be in the league for a while.
We will just have to disagree about him being in the league in more than 2 years. I do agree that he got even worse, but the thing was, he never was good. His badness was masked by the coaches telling him to just 'don't make mistakes.' Gus let him actually show what he had, and it wasn't good. He doesn't have the intangibles, the decision-making, whatever you want to call it. Do I think that timeline could get longer if Gabb's went to someone like Andy Reid? Sure, the man works miracles. But just about anybody else, and yeah, hes gone in 2 years.
Quote:thank you for providing comic relief for us in the absense of TMD, who I guess is banned again?
I was just wondering the same thing, haven't seen him in a couple days
Quote:I would start him here again the next few games. See if the light is on. If not and cant move the ball. I dont see him as a backup some where else.
The light is not coming on. It never was even sparking. Gabbert it what he is and that is garbage.
At worst he will be give a shot somewhere to fight for the backup job.