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Quote:Yeah, Blackmon will turn out better if he keeps it together, but it hardly equates to calling the sun hot. LOL.

 

How can you still not have this whole opinion/fact thing figured out after twent- errr THIRTY thousand posts??    Sheesh....

 

I suppose you missed the Jags/ Texans game last year...

 

Anyone who saw that game and can still say that Shorts is the better player, well.... :confused: 

 

The game wasn't a "fluke" either. He displayed the same uber talent in college. Heck, the Texans game for Blackmon actually looked like it was taken from some of his college highlight reels...

You really can't compare CS3 and JB because they are such different recievers. Shorts is a speedster while Blackmon is more physical. It's like asking if Cruz is better than Boldin. People may think one way or the other but you can't go wong with either on Sunday.

Quote:I suppose you missed the Jags/ Texans game last year...

 

Anyone who saw that game and can still say that Shorts is the better player, well.... :confused:

 

I thought I just said that Blackmon was going to turn out better?    Did you miss that?     :confused:

 

Its a small sample size right now  -  so it's not going to be definitive in many people's minds.   Others will probably feel similarly when Blackmon has played more and done so consistently.  Not everyone is as comfortable jumping to conclusions as you are.  (C3PO) 

Quote:Blackmon has always been better than Shorts. 

 

Blackmon just needed to adjust to the speed of the game as a rookie, hence the modest numbers in the first half of his rookie year. 

 

Shorts couldn't even get on the field for much of his rookie year...

 

You are the one who's ignorant if you are seriously trying to argue that Shorts is the better WR of the 2. 

He might have more potential, but saying he's better is a joke. Neither the film nor stats will back you up. 

Quote:You really can't compare CS3 and JB because they are such different recievers. Shorts is a speedster while Blackmon is more physical. It's like asking if Cruz is better than Boldin. People may think one way or the other but you can't go wong with either on Sunday.

 

Shorts plays faster than his timed speed, but then so does Blackmon. He's just as viable to break a long TD from anywhere on the field as Shorts is. Except he also has better hands. 

Quote:He might have more potential, but saying he's better is a joke. Neither the film nor stats will back you up. 

 

lol...Blackmon in his rookie season was pretty much just as productive as Shorts was in his second season...

 

Shorts was a complete non-factor in his rookie season. 

 

Blackmon (provided he remains healthy) will probably eclipse 1000 yards this season and approach double digit TD's, despite missing the 4 games to suspension

Quote:I suppose you missed the Jags/ Texans game last year...

 

Anyone who saw that game and can still say that Shorts is the better player, well.... :confused:

 

The game wasn't a "fluke" either. He displayed the same uber talent in college. Heck, the Texans game for Blackmon actually looked like it was taken from some of his college highlight reels...

By that logic Henne must be the QB of the future I mean damn 4 td 0 ints? One game means nothing and considering that 1 game accounts for 25%+ of his total yards last year that just goes to show you how bad his stats would have been without that game. 

 

Oh btw Shorts had 100+ in that game along with a td and had multiple 100 yard games. Blackmon is good but Shorts is listed #1 on the depth chart for a reason. 

Quote:Shorts plays faster than his timed speed, but then so does Blackmon. He's just as viable to break a long TD from anywhere on the field as Shorts is. Except he also has better hands. 

 

Cecil has good hands himself as well. He's pulled in some circus catches.

 

I'm glad we have great recievers we can debate about whose better because there aren't a ton of bright spots on this roster.

Quote:By that logic Henne must be the QB of the future I mean damn 4 td 0 ints? One game means nothing and considering that 1 game accounts for 25%+ of his total yards last year that just goes to show you how bad his stats would have been without that game. 

 

Oh btw Shorts had 100+ in that game along with a td and had multiple 100 yard games. Blackmon is good but Shorts is listed #1 on the depth chart for a reason. 

 

Thats a dumb comparison....everything Blackmon showed you in that Houston game, he also showed you in college. He has the ability to completely take over games. Shorts doesn't. 

Quote:lol...Blackmon in his rookie season was pretty much just as productive as Shorts was in his second season...

 

Shorts was a complete non-factor in his rookie season. 

 

Blackmon (provided he remains healthy) will probably eclipse 1000 yards this season and approach double digit TD's, despite missing the 4 games to suspension

Shorts might as well have been a rookie considering he came in during the lockout and didn't get much playing time.

Quote:Blackmon (provided he remains healthy) will probably eclipse 1000 yards this season and approach double digit TD's, despite missing the 4 games to suspension

 

And provided somebody can get him the ball...

Quote:Thats a dumb comparison....everything Blackmon showed you in that Houston game, he also showed you in college. He has the ability to completely take over games. Shorts doesn't. 

Okay, so Blackmon has 1 good game and he's better than a guy who was consistently putting up 100 a game and catching game winners? If you continue to argue this I'll just go ahead and label you ignorant on a scale of 1-oaklahomie and move on. 

Quote:Okay, so Blackmon has 1 good game and he's better than a guy who was consistently putting up 100 a game and catching game winners? If you continue to argue this I'll just go ahead and label you ignorant on a scale of 1-oaklahomie and move on. 

 

I'd guess that you are ignorant as well - apparently you have little appreciation for the kind of rookie year Blackmon was able to put up. Rookie WR usually struggle - add to that having Blaine/ Henne as your starting QB the entire season, and the fact that Blackmon still put up a rookie season that was more productive than most of the Jags STARTING veteran WR over the last decade....well, as said, I'll just color you ignorant as well. 

Quote:And provided somebody can get him the ball...

 

He had the same stiffs throwing him the ball last season and did fine. 

Quote:Shorts might as well have been a rookie considering he came in during the lockout and didn't get much playing time.

 

Blackmon had to deal with the holdout/ his arrest during his rookie year...

 

They both had distractions. 

 

One was simply better, faster....and thats simply because he is the more talented WR. Blackmon has top 10 NFL WR ability.

 

Shorts has turned into a nice player though, (as opposed to my original expectations for him),....he's like Keenan was  to Jimmy Smith.  Jimmy & Blackmon can both take over NFL games....Keenan was good, but not quite to that level. 

Quote:Blackmon had to deal with the holdout/ his arrest during his rookie year...

 

They both had distractions. 

 

One was simply better, faster....and thats simply because he is the more talented WR. Blackmon has top 10 NFL WR ability.

 

Shorts has turned into a nice player though, (as opposed to my original expectations for him),....he's like Keenan was  to Jimmy Smith.  Jimmy & Blackmon can both take over NFL games....Keenan was good, but not quite to that level. 

I completely appreciate Blackmons rookie year and love him as a player, that being said Shorts proved he was the better play maker of the two.. outside of the houston game Blackmon was average (but pretty good for a rookie) where as Shorts was playing like a top 10 NFL WR all year long and the only thing that kept him down were injuries caused by dirty hits. 

Blackmon could have Jerry Rice talent, unfortunately we don't know because the fool is suspended and not available. That in itself makes Shorts the better receiver up to this point. I do agree  Blackmon's potential to be much higher.

Quote:I completely appreciate Blackmons rookie year and love him as a player, that being said Shorts proved he was the better play maker of the two.. outside of the houston game Blackmon was average (but pretty good for a rookie) where as Shorts was playing like a top 10 NFL WR all year long and the only thing that kept him down were injuries caused by dirty hits. 

 

I think Shorts benefited from the presence of Blackmon on the field. 

 

Has Shorts played the same as last year for these last 3 games without Blackmon to take defenses focus away? 

 

Blackmon doesn't need to have "that guy" opposite him to produce, he will regardless. I am not sure that Shorts can without that presence on the opposite side. 

Quote:I think Shorts benefited from the presence of Blackmon on the field. 

 

Has Shorts played the same as last year for these last 3 games without Blackmon to take defenses focus away? 

 

Blackmon doesn't need to have "that guy" opposite him to produce, he will regardless. I am not sure that Shorts can without that presence on the opposite side. 

What data are you using to make this claim?

Shorts is not as good as blackmon imo... but shorts is an assest to this team at this point.... I don't think we will be able to get the value out of him it would take to plug other holes if we did trade him...considering how long it generally takes for a wr to develope in this league, I don't think it would be all that good of a move to have to start from scratch on another cheap wr project.. ...I think some people consider this like the indy move of lettin garcon go, we don't have a wayne caliber reciver who will carry the load if shorts is gone...not to mention he isn't that expensive.... trading shorts would just create another hole in roster.... I understand we have a bunch of holes but y create more when u have at least something to build off of at this point.... imean look at teams like minn who had tons of picks last year but it still didn't completely materialize

Quote:What data are you using to make this claim?

 

Watching Blackmon in college and pro/ seeing Shorts' play without Blackmon in the lineup...