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(06-19-2017, 02:44 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]Ring wing nut job shoots up a church to start a race war and he's a lone wolf with mental problems. Left wing guy shoots a politician and it's proof that leftist are part of a violent movement overall. The amount of self delusion and confirmation bias the majority in here on the right show on a daily basis is astounding but that thinking is pretty disgusting. Shameful.

What a hypocrite you are. Your holier than thou self-righteous tone is steeped in a complete lack of sincerity.

I believe you referred to conservatives as "sub humans" when a church was burned in Greenville and "Vote Trump" was painted on the side.  Sounds like a blanket assumption to me, but it got even better when it turned out it was a comrade of yours who actually did it.

(11-02-2016, 12:46 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]RNC Office getes firebombed and HRC condemns it along with liberals raising a bunch of money in relief for the place.

Church gets burned down and you sub humans show your true colors. 

Not sure why I thought the deplorables here would put aside their deplorable nature.

Nothing like having YOUR true colors exposed, eh hypocrite?

One might call it disgusting or even shameful.

Interestingly enough, you avoided that thread (one you started, BTW) like the plague once the actual truth came out. Go figure. Righteous indignation is best avoided once it blows up in your face.

So I guess by the logic of what I'm reading here some are saying that all WWII era Germans were Hitler followers and all thought the holocaust was a great idea just as all Americans must have thought it a brilliant idea to inter Japanese Americans. Oh, and all Japanese were voted "yes" on the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Because you know one bad apple defines the whole bushel.

I agree that there are people/groups on the left who are absolutely hateful and wish harm to those who don't agree with them. We are seeing it play out. But do I believe the left as a whole feels that way? No. I know and am friends with and related to liberals who harbor no ill will toward anyone. They don't agree with what is happening at all. They are living their lives just like the rest of us. People need to get a damn grip and stop tearing each other down. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Liberals are not leftists and leftists are very illiberal.

(06-18-2017, 12:54 PM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Marty, your neighbor was correct.  Obama was dedicated to destroying America.  So was George Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, etc.  It's called globalism.  America has to be destroyed before they can institute a true global government.  Simple as that.  

And right now Donald Trump is the only thing standing in their way.

I'm not so sure, but he is a better option than Hillary would have been. I agree with people who say political dialogue, especially that of the extreme left (which seems to be controlling portion of democrats right now) is what is responsible for this. Marty is also right that people have a hard time having calm conversations about politics anymore when they are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

When I think back to that talks I used to have on my unit in 2011-2012, they were so much milder than anything going on now. I think people are finally starting to pull back, but the worst offenders are still going strong. Hopefully, with a couple more years of relative stability and economic improvement (I hope) we will be back on track to get away from this kind of stuff.

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(06-18-2017, 03:57 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Look, leftists assassinated Garfield, McKinley, both Kennedys, MLK, tried to get Reagan and now Scalise. Both sides are just awful, get it???

Don't forget that Fascist are on the Right (i.e. Nazi's). It interesting how that detail is taught wrong in every history class now.
Literal definition of Nazi:
"1. A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler.

2. An adherent or advocate of policies characteristic of Nazism; a fascist."  http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Nazi

And yet its taught that they are 'extreme right' cause they hated communist Russia. Nope, sorry, they are just a different kind of left hating another left government. But just for drilling it in sake, guess which is Hitler and which is Bernie without google:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

"One can be proud of one's people only if there is no class left of which one need to be ashamed. When one half of a nation is sunk in misery and worn out by hard distress, or even depraved or degenerate, that nation presents such an unattractive picture that nobody can feel proud to belong to it. It is only when a nation is sound in all its members, physically and morally, that the joy of belonging to it can properly be intensified to the supreme feeling which we call national pride. But this pride, in its highest form, can be felt only by those who know the greatness of their nation."

"We have to put a stop to the idea that it is a part of everybody's civil rights to say whatever he pleases."

"Society's needs come before the individual's needs."

Anyway, that was enough for tonight.

(06-19-2017, 02:44 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]Ring wing nut job shoots up a church to start a race war and he's a lone wolf with mental problems.

Who actually says that? I think it's assumed that when anyone kills anyone else that there is some sort of mental illness. But this idea that people excuse white killers as having illnesses is stupid and generally incorrect.

(06-19-2017, 07:26 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]So I guess by the logic of what I'm reading here some are saying that all WWII era Germans were Hitler followers and all thought the holocaust was a great idea just as all Americans must have thought it a brilliant idea to inter Japanese Americans. Oh, and all Japanese were voted "yes" on the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Because you know one bad apple defines the whole bushel.

I agree that there are people/groups on the left who are absolutely hateful and wish harm to those who don't agree with them. We are seeing it play out. But do I believe the left as a whole feels that way? No. I know and am friends with and related to liberals who harbor no ill will toward anyone. They don't agree with what is happening at all. They are living their lives just like the rest of us. People need to get a damn grip and stop tearing each other down. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Agreed.  Not all those leftists out there are ingrained with enough hatred and anger to lash out violently, but it's an unfortunate fact in the world today that most of the recent incidents of violence in this country are linked to one political ideology.  It hasn't always been that way, but it's difficult to deny where this is coming from in recent years.  Meanwhile, the left constantly tells us how it's the violent rhetoric of the right that is the cause.  That's a load of bunk.

The scary thing right now is that the radical far left has used fear and intimidation tactics to advance their views, and violence when they deem it necessary (like when they need to pitch a tantrum when they lose an election).  At some point, as they continue to poke the bear, they're going to be shocked when the right has finally had enough and pokes back.  At that point, they'll naturally play the victim and tell the world "See!  We told you so!"

(06-20-2017, 02:54 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2017, 02:44 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]Ring wing nut job shoots up a church to start a race war and he's a lone wolf with mental problems.

Who actually says that? I think it's assumed that when anyone kills anyone else that there is some sort of mental illness. But this idea that people excuse white killers as having illnesses is stupid and generally incorrect.

Agreed.  No rational person is going to go on a shooting spree.  Nobody actually excused anything with the church shooting in Charleston beyond maybe one poster saying it was a setup.  What we do know is that one side of the political spectrum certainly tried to make some blanket assumptions though.

(06-20-2017, 02:54 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2017, 02:44 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]Ring wing nut job shoots up a church to start a race war and he's a lone wolf with mental problems.

Who actually says that? I think it's assumed that when anyone kills anyone else that there is some sort of mental illness. But this idea that people excuse white killers as having illnesses is stupid and generally incorrect.

People willing to kill for their ideology arent mentally ill, thats been the normal state of humanity for most of history. The idea that we dont have to constantly be on guard against human nature is what's wrong with the "kumbaya" politics of both the left and right, everyone doesnt share the same views on what is and isnt evil, especially when it comes to exherting control over each other. We live in a brief window of unusual circumstance where entire countries are experiencing freedom, and if we aren't careful to protect it then it will be lost to the forces of chaos or authoritarianism.

(06-20-2017, 09:00 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2017, 07:26 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]So I guess by the logic of what I'm reading here some are saying that all WWII era Germans were Hitler followers and all thought the holocaust was a great idea just as all Americans must have thought it a brilliant idea to inter Japanese Americans. Oh, and all Japanese were voted "yes" on the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Because you know one bad apple defines the whole bushel.

I agree that there are people/groups on the left who are absolutely hateful and wish harm to those who don't agree with them. We are seeing it play out. But do I believe the left as a whole feels that way? No. I know and am friends with and related to liberals who harbor no ill will toward anyone. They don't agree with what is happening at all. They are living their lives just like the rest of us. People need to get a damn grip and stop tearing each other down. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

Agreed.  Not all those leftists out there are ingrained with enough hatred and anger to lash out violently, but it's an unfortunate fact in the world today that most of the recent incidents of violence in this country are linked to one political ideology.  It hasn't always been that way, but it's difficult to deny where this is coming from in recent years.  Meanwhile, the left constantly tells us how it's the violent rhetoric of the right that is the cause.  That's a load of bunk.

The scary thing right now is that the radical far left has used fear and intimidation tactics to advance their views, and violence when they deem it necessary (like when they need to pitch a tantrum when they lose an election).  At some point, as they continue to poke the bear, they're going to be shocked when the right has finally had enough and pokes back.  At that point, they'll naturally play the victim and tell the world "See!  We told you so!"

"...when the right has finally had enough and pokes back."

I am curious as to what you think that would be.   How would the right "poke back?"  

I'm not trying to trap you or anything, I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by that phrase.

(06-20-2017, 10:49 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2017, 09:00 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed.  Not all those leftists out there are ingrained with enough hatred and anger to lash out violently, but it's an unfortunate fact in the world today that most of the recent incidents of violence in this country are linked to one political ideology.  It hasn't always been that way, but it's difficult to deny where this is coming from in recent years.  Meanwhile, the left constantly tells us how it's the violent rhetoric of the right that is the cause.  That's a load of bunk.

The scary thing right now is that the radical far left has used fear and intimidation tactics to advance their views, and violence when they deem it necessary (like when they need to pitch a tantrum when they lose an election).  At some point, as they continue to poke the bear, they're going to be shocked when the right has finally had enough and pokes back.  At that point, they'll naturally play the victim and tell the world "See!  We told you so!"

"...when the right has finally had enough and pokes back."

I am curious as to what you think that would be.   How would the right "poke back?"  

I'm not trying to trap you or anything, I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by that phrase.

I honestly don't know, but I fear it just the same.  You can't expect to keep getting in the face of people and attacking them without fear of repercussion.  Eventually one side gets tired of being attacked.

(06-20-2017, 12:13 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2017, 10:49 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]"...when the right has finally had enough and pokes back."

I am curious as to what you think that would be.   How would the right "poke back?"  

I'm not trying to trap you or anything, I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by that phrase.

I honestly don't know, but I fear it just the same.  You can't expect to keep getting in the face of people and attacking them without fear of repercussion.  Eventually one side gets tired of being attacked.

I fear it as well.   It seems like we're coming dangerously close to open warfare in this country.   Like 1850 Kansas.

(06-19-2017, 04:55 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-19-2017, 02:44 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]Ring wing nut job shoots up a church to start a race war and he's a lone wolf with mental problems. Left wing guy shoots a politician and it's proof that leftist are part of a violent movement overall. The amount of self delusion and confirmation bias the majority in here on the right show on a daily basis is astounding but that thinking is pretty disgusting. Shameful.

What a hypocrite you are.  Your holier than thou self-righteous tone is steeped in a complete lack of sincerity.

I believe you referred to conservatives as "sub humans" when a church was burned in Greenville and "Vote Trump" was painted on the side.  Sounds like a blanket assumption to me, but it got even better when it turned out it was a comrade of yours who actually did it.

(11-02-2016, 12:46 PM)boudreaumw Wrote: [ -> ]RNC Office getes firebombed and HRC condemns it along with liberals raising a bunch of money in relief for the place.

Church gets burned down and you sub humans show your true colors. 

Not sure why I thought the deplorables here would put aside their deplorable nature.

Nothing like having YOUR true colors exposed, eh hypocrite?

One might call it disgusting or even shameful.

Interestingly enough, you avoided that thread (one you started, BTW) like the plague once the actual truth came out.  Go figure.  Righteous indignation is best avoided once it blows up in your face.

Amen!  (Hope I don't get whacked for a religious reference here)

(06-20-2017, 12:44 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2017, 12:13 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly don't know, but I fear it just the same.  You can't expect to keep getting in the face of people and attacking them without fear of repercussion.  Eventually one side gets tired of being attacked.

I fear it as well.   It seems like we're coming dangerously close to open warfare in this country.   Like 1850 Kansas.

I agree with you both. Whether it comes in the form of a civil war, as some think, or something else, I don't know and I hope it doesn't happen. But I think it will happen and it's going to be ugly.