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Quote:But why does no other bad qb put up stats like his?

Nobody is denying he's the best garbage time qb in the league

Quote:Nobody is denying he's the best garbage time qb in the league

The thing is if his D makes some plays and Lee doesnt drop punts, we are talking about a great comeback. Luck has had many games where he's been scoreless at halftime.

Quote:The thing is if his D makes some plays and Lee doesnt drop punts, we are talking about a great comeback. Luck has had many games where he's been scoreless at halftime.

27-0? Do you know how demoralizing that is? They gave up. The offense couldn't stay on the field longer than 2 minutes and gassed the D.

27-0, 6 straight punts.

 

We could have made a comeback if we didn't drop a punt! Thats where it all went wrong!

The D was gassed in the first quarter?

Quote:The D was gassed in the first quarter?

It appears they were gassed coming out of the locker room.

The thing is I don't think most those drives ended because of Bortles. The oline was pathetic as was Robinson in the first half.


If he played for Denver he probably wins that game and nobody would be laying into him.

Gads...

I'm not sure if the OP was being serious or not, but regardless... Stats other than the end of season W/L ratio are pretty pointless for a bad team, and right now the Jags are a pathetically bad team. I'm sure the OP is intelligent enough to realize that much of BB's positive stats are the result of 'garbage time' production. Essentially, just stat padding; if those stats are also viewed in light of the W/L record, they are far more revealing than they would otherwise be.

 

Is it all the fault of Gus Bradley? Is it Olson? Or is it that Bortles has developed a drinking problem? Is it that after last season other teams adjusted their defenses to cover the Allens and we've not adjusted for that? Is it that we've got virtually no running game?

 

Is it a combination of all these things to create what amounts to the 'perfect storm' for the Jags? 

 

Probably some combination of all the above. The bottom line, however, remains the bottom line; is this team better now than it was when Gus Bradley came here? I think the answer to that is, regrettably, no. Dave Caldwell did the right thing to 'gut' that old roster I think. However, he made a major error in then bringing in a first time head coach with all the rookies he had on the roster. First time head coaches rarely have much success on their first time round.

 

Secondly, while Bortles has his strong points, he nevertheless had and still has a fundamental flaw in the basic throwing technique. Given this fact, he should never have been drafted as highly as he was. In addition, he is showing a real character weakness in the way he reacts when things don't go well. He acts like a spoiled kid who isn't getting what he thinks he 'deserves'. That is poor leadership from the one guy on the team you count on to be emotionally solid for direction. Basically, he isn't conducting himself like a franchise quarterback should or would.

 

 

 

 

 

This starter of this thread is a complete [BLEEP].   <---- special word for donkey

90% of that in garbage time. Sounds legit.

To be fair you can't win, people used to blast Garrard for not being angry enough.


Colts fans think Luck is too nice and should be more like Manning.


Rivers can be a douche but nobody doubts his leadership.

You can and should fault the coaching staff for not coaching Bortles up better i.e. teaching him how to throw with a proper motion but to an extent I think Bortles will always be what he is, which is an inaccurate thrower who makes bad decisions too often. Inaccuracy I see a lot of times when watching the game from him. I didn't see that as much with Rivers obviously. Inaccuracy is the reason why when the defense plays tight he cant get anything going. He can't place a ball accurately into tight windows. Once the defense loosens up the windows gets bigger and his play improves - that's too late. Theoreticcaly you can improve on that but I think it will be too much to ask from Bortles

Quote:At the beginning of the year you wouldn't have taken a 27 TD and 4,352 yard season from Bortles? He's doing his job. His running game, his defense, his coaching isn't doing theirs. Period.

 

You need to start watching the games. Especially the first half.

 

Quote:The D was gassed in the first quarter?

No. It was 0-3 in the 1st quarter. Try and keep up.


The Titans had the ball for like 23 minutes+ in the first half. You think that's ok?

Quote:Translation: let's go draft a 15-21 TD QB like Leftwich, Garrard, or Gabbert.


That will help this team with no defense.

You know what's hilarious? Blake only has 1 more win than Gabbert this year.

 

Stop defending Blake and read what I'm about to write. Don't get angry and deflect from what I'm about to say. Ok?

 

The coaching staff is awful. We all know that. However, some blame must be placed on the QB too. It's the same problem I had before when people would say "You can't blame Gus for the first 3 years. He didn't have the players he needed." Thats bogus. A great coach and a great QB lift their teams to a place higher than their potential. Luck has had an awful defense pretty much his entire time in Indy. Blake turns the ball over too much and his throws are generally off target. Too many low passes, he doesn't hit receivers in stride often and he misses WIDE open players. Like the crossing route last night on 3rd and 5 when he sailed it over their head.

 

Stop making excuses for the kid and realize he's part of the problem. He's not the only one because god knows we have a bunch but you can't sit their claim he's a franchise QB. He's not and he's really not even close. Mariota was by far the best QB on the field last night. Hitting receivers in stride, making good reads, and most of all, winning the game.

Let's see:


7 plays PUNT

5 plays PUNT

3 plays PUNT

3 plays PUNT

3 plays PUNT


That's the Jags offense in the 1st half.

Yup,, it's the defense's fault. They need to make a play, lol.


Oh yeah, that offensive output sure says "Elite" QB, huh?


Any REASONABLE fan that has eyeballs can see Blake is NOT playing well, at all. He is just not near good enough right now, and a lot of reasonable people are seeing this.


The others just can't stand to be wrong, so they manipulate stats, or blame everything else, just to avoid being wrong. It's okay guys. Blake freaking sucks right now. Can he get better? Probably,,Maybe. But, right now? He's not even close.

Quote:All those garbage time playoff appearances.

Lol

Blakes mechanics are awful, he's not a leader, etc.


If Gus wasn't the worst coach in the history of the NFL there would be a ton more heat on Blake.

Quote:You can say that with Philip Rivers entire career. It's irrelevant. You're either a 30-35 TD, 4400 yard passing QB or you're NOT. Jags aren't finding another one of these QBs nor have they the past 21 years. The drafting another QB argument is hilarious

When a team plays prevent defense in the SECOND HALF of a game, you're going to get passing stats.


I can't believe I'm explaining this.... how often do you think we were going to run to ball coming into the 2nd half last night? Now how often do you think we were going to run the ball if the game were close? Lol you think that's "irrelevant" when talking about a QBs stats? Like... seriously? Just because you BLINDLY say "oh Phillip Rivers does that" doesn't mean anything. Especially because Phillip Rivers career hasn't been 95% garbage time.


Hilarious is the fact that you don't understand that more passing= more passing stats. Phillip Rivers' offense doesn't go 6-6 for possessions/punts.


If you watched last night and thought that Blake looked even remotely decent last night, you shouldn't be judging QBs.

Who cares, he stinks when it matters