I doubt they've made any decision yet, but it's probably trending toward an extension based on how he has handled himself both on and off the field during this run. You can trash Bortles for a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day, he has contributed to getting the team where it is right now. If they somehow manage to get through this weekend with a game left to play, I think that probably seals the deal.
I would expect to see the team exploring their options in the draft, and they'll still need to be a player in free agency to find an upgrade at backup.
(01-18-2018, 10:39 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt they've made any decision yet, but it's probably trending toward an extension based on how he has handled himself both on and off the field during this run. You can trash Bortles for a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day, he has contributed to getting the team where it is right now. If they somehow manage to get through this weekend with a game left to play, I think that probably seals the deal.
I would expect to see the team exploring their options in the draft, and they'll still need to be a player in free agency to find an upgrade at backup.
I think something that everyone is glossing over is that his teammates really seem to respect and like the guy.
Clearly.
Get him 2-3 more OL and a WR and a TE and Jags are annual champs.
(01-17-2018, 03:40 PM)jagsfan1983 Wrote: [ -> ]QBs don't grow on trees. He will be extended. There is not much history of QBs playing incredible when they are introduced to the league at age 22. Particularly with no running game and a poor defense. This season the running game and defense improved, the Jaguars weren't relying on Bortles throwing 50 times to try to come from behind, and as a result cut down on confidence draining mistakes (no pick 6s) and was able to manage games effectively. There is room for improvement, but he has definitely shown enough improvement for an extension. Some perspective
Alex Smith first 4 years in NFL (through age 25 season)
56.3% 7029 yards 37 touchdowns 43 interceptions 163 ypg 69.2 QB Rating
Andrew Luck first 4 years in NFL (through age 26 season)
58.1% 14838 yards 101 touchdowns 55 interceptions 270 ypg 85 QB Rating
Tom Brady first 4 years in NFL (through age 26 season)
61.9% 10233 yards 69 touchdowns 38 interceptions 213 ypg 85.9 QB Rating (77.3 QB rating in the 2001 playoffs, 84.5 QB rating in the 2003 playoffs)
Drew Brees first 4 years in NFL (through age 25 season)
61.3% 8772 yards 56 touchdowns 38 interceptions 204 ypg 83.2 QB Rating
Matthew Stafford first 4 years in NFL (through age 24 season)
59.8% 12807 yards 80 touchdowns 54 interceptions 285 ypg 82.8 QB Rating
Kirk Cousins first 3 years in NFL (through age 26 season)
59% 3030 yards 18 touchdowns 19 interceptions 216 ypg 77.5 QB Rating
Eli Manning first 4 years in NFL (through age 26 season)
54.7% 11385 yards 77 touchdowns 64 interceptions 200 ypg 73.4 QB Rating
Blake Bortles first 4 years in NFL (through age 25 season)
59.1% 14928 yards 90 touchdowns 64 interceptions 240 ypg 80.8 QB Rating (85.5 QB Rating in the playoffs)
Yet everyone would grab any of those QBs in a nanosecond.
Unless you are getting an established top 10 quarterback in free agency you are always running a risk with a high draft pick or a one hit wonder like Flacco. There are only a handful of QBs that would guarantee the Jags immediate improvement at the position next year and the majority are not spring chickens.
Peyton Manning threw 100 INTs his first 5 seasons.
I tried telling these Duval fans Bortles is a stud. They didn't listen.
(01-18-2018, 10:14 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Extending Bortles now would be a completely boneheaded move. He's under contract for next season as it is. He's not going anywhere in 2018. He had a stretch of bad games before the playoffs and has been "inconsistent" this season as it is. Yes, he has improved from last season, but if Washington has been as patient as they have been by tagging Kirk Cousins multiple times, we can show the same patience by letting Bortles play next season under his current deal and taking more time to evaluate his progression. There is absolutely no need what so ever, to jump the gun here and give him a contract extension. I don't understand that kind of thinking at all.
Yeah......how's that working out for Washington?
Coughlin/Caldwell isn't Washington. They're more intelligent.
As much as people rag on the total qbr stat, Bortles is third out of the 12 QBs in this postseason so far. Right behind Brady and Brees.
He'll get the extension and the board will go into meltdown. However, I don't believe that it keeps the Jags from seeking an upgrade. Maybe they'll finally cut the Hen loose!
(01-18-2018, 10:51 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Clearly.
Get him 2-3 more OL and a WR and a TE and Jags are annual champs.
2-3 more OL? Not sure about that one. RG sure, maybe LG but Omameh has been really good. Cam, Linder, Parnell aren't going anywhere.
WR? He'll have ARob back.
TE? Yes, we need one.
(01-18-2018, 11:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]As much as people rag on the total qbr stat, Bortles is third out of the 12 QBs in this postseason so far. Right behind Brady and Brees.
He was also 12th for the regular season. The only QBs under 29 years old in the top 12 were Wentz (25), Prescott(24), and Bortles (25). The NFL is tough. Look at Brady's early seasons before the game slowed down for him. There are plenty of examples. Everyone said Blake was raw coming out of college, but the Jaguars still threw him into the fire on a horrible team in his rookie year. This is his first year with a competent coach and he led us to a win over Pittsburgh to make the AFCCG. Make no mistake there were plenty of chances to fold when Pittsburgh was scoring every possession, but the offense answered the call each time in the 4th quarter. The Jury is still out on if he is a long term quarterback, but the fact that he isn't a pro bowler by age 25 isn't automatic proof that he is the wrong guy long term either.
(01-18-2018, 11:52 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Stud. LOL
There's still a lot of growing to do but everyone has always seen the potential.
The question is can he continue to grow...
Stud he is not, yet.
Capable starter, absolutely.
But would any of us expect spacecoast to reel in his man crush at this point?
(01-18-2018, 12:23 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 11:52 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Stud. LOL
There's still a lot of growing to do but everyone has always seen the potential.
The question is can he continue to grow...
Stud he is not, yet.
Capable starter, absolutely.
But would any of us expect spacecoast to reel in his man crush at this point?
Oh, absolutely.
He's realistically somewhere between the dump him now crowd and spacedout's over the top views of him. He's an adequate NFL QB.
(01-18-2018, 12:13 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 10:51 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ]Clearly.
Get him 2-3 more OL and a WR and a TE and Jags are annual champs.
2-3 more OL? Not sure about that one. RG sure, maybe LG but Omameh has been really good. Cam, Linder, Parnell aren't going anywhere.
WR? He'll have ARob back.
TE? Yes, we need one.
Andrews please.... at pick 32
(01-18-2018, 10:44 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 10:39 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt they've made any decision yet, but it's probably trending toward an extension based on how he has handled himself both on and off the field during this run. You can trash Bortles for a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day, he has contributed to getting the team where it is right now. If they somehow manage to get through this weekend with a game left to play, I think that probably seals the deal.
I would expect to see the team exploring their options in the draft, and they'll still need to be a player in free agency to find an upgrade at backup.
I think something that everyone is glossing over is that his teammates really seem to respect and like the guy.
This is a factor too and something worth noting. Throughout this season we have seen plenty of criticism of Blake Bortles and a number of players have stepped up and supported Blake. They seem to have added Blake's criticism as another chip on their shoulder. He's liked by the locker room and that is something that counts.
I am in support of bringing Blake back. We shouldn't make a change for the sake of change and I don't anticipate any realistic options being available that are an upgrade. Drew Brees and Alex Smith aren't coming here. The team isn't going to break the bank for a guy like Kirk Cousins in my opinion.
Blake is only 25 years old too. He is showing improvement, he is a gamer and one thing that gets glossed over sometimes is he is durable. Blake has taken an [BLEEP] kicking in his first few years in Jacksonville and how much time has he missed? Maybe one game due to any type of injury? He's a tough son of a [BLEEP] and I'm guessing that plays into the teammate respect factor too.
(01-18-2018, 11:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]As much as people rag on the total qbr stat, Bortles is third out of the 12 QBs in this postseason so far. Right behind Brady and Brees.
"As much as people rag on the total QBR stat, now that it's in our favor it's actually not so bad."
(01-18-2018, 02:15 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 11:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]As much as people rag on the total qbr stat, Bortles is third out of the 12 QBs in this postseason so far. Right behind Brady and Brees.
"As much as people rag on the total QBR stat, now that it's in our favor it's actually not so bad."
It's still a garbage stat. But that's what everyone always uses to justify
(01-18-2018, 11:33 AM)spacecoastjag Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 10:14 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Extending Bortles now would be a completely boneheaded move. He's under contract for next season as it is. He's not going anywhere in 2018. He had a stretch of bad games before the playoffs and has been "inconsistent" this season as it is. Yes, he has improved from last season, but if Washington has been as patient as they have been by tagging Kirk Cousins multiple times, we can show the same patience by letting Bortles play next season under his current deal and taking more time to evaluate his progression. There is absolutely no need what so ever, to jump the gun here and give him a contract extension. I don't understand that kind of thinking at all.
Yeah......how's that working out for Washington?
Coughlin/Caldwell isn't Washington. They're more intelligent.
It's worked out fine. They haven't locked themselves in, long term on a guy they don't believe can be a top tier QB. They'll probably try to take an upgrade in the draft.
(01-18-2018, 02:15 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 11:37 AM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]As much as people rag on the total qbr stat, Bortles is third out of the 12 QBs in this postseason so far. Right behind Brady and Brees.
"As much as people rag on the total QBR stat, now that it's in our favor it's actually not so bad."
I dont rag on it, I just know many people here do.
(01-18-2018, 10:44 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ] (01-18-2018, 10:39 AM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt they've made any decision yet, but it's probably trending toward an extension based on how he has handled himself both on and off the field during this run. You can trash Bortles for a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day, he has contributed to getting the team where it is right now. If they somehow manage to get through this weekend with a game left to play, I think that probably seals the deal.
I would expect to see the team exploring their options in the draft, and they'll still need to be a player in free agency to find an upgrade at backup.
I think something that everyone is glossing over is that his teammates really seem to respect and like the guy.
I think that’s getting a good bit of play in local media, and it has come from both players and his head coach. That will no doubt be a factor, and I think their support actually bolsters Bortles confidence. We haven’t seen him regress after bad play in the manner we did last year. He has rebounded nicely from bad situations. That’s a good thing.
If the playoff run continues beyond this week, it’s going to be impossible to justify moving on, that’s for sure.
I don't get the hate for the guy...
He's young and he's still learning the game of football.
Oh, and he got us to the AFC Championship.