(03-21-2018, 09:37 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 09:34 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ]I just don't think we need to sell our soul for a top 3 QB. I mean... what if the Jets draft Josh Allen or Rosen and they bust? They are gonna be screwed for a long long time.
Ya, nothing is guaranteed. The team has something up their sleeves, I can only think they mean to make splash in the draft... IDK...something..The Jags need another QB or two...
But why would cap space increase our ability to make a splash in the draft?
(03-21-2018, 09:11 AM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 08:31 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Time to start saving to resign the young guys.
Doesn’t this increase his cap number the following years (2019 on)? Wouldn’t it be better to keep it lower when the younger guys come up? Unless the rollover outweighs that.
I'm so confused. I hope they haven't pushed money out to the future.
(03-21-2018, 09:45 AM)JagJohn Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 09:11 AM)Jags239 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn’t this increase his cap number the following years (2019 on)? Wouldn’t it be better to keep it lower when the younger guys come up? Unless the rollover outweighs that.
I'm so confused. I hope they haven't pushed money out to the future.
I'm with you... totally confused. I'm sure it all makes sense to the people that matter though.
(03-21-2018, 09:26 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Who is eligible to be extended that we are 100% going to try and extend?
That's a good question.
Obviously there is nobody from 2013.
All of the 2014 guys have either been re-signed (Bortles, Lee, Linder, Telvin) or allowed to walk (Robinson)
The 2015 guys are up after this year. Maybe we could exercize the 5th year option on Fowler. Not sure if Yeldon is a huge re-sign priority. I doubt Cann is.
There are two years left on Ramsey, not counting the 5th year option and probably one left for Jack and Ngakoue.
I would hope the team is planning ahead to re-sign those guys.
(03-21-2018, 09:16 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 08:40 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]I think this is the more likely scenario, unless they're looking at a backup QB.
There's no one left worth signing.
This.
I'd be disappointed if they are pushing cap hits into the future to sign a really bad backup QB.
(03-21-2018, 08:18 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 08:03 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder who they are targeting with all that new money?
I've wondered about that.
I also wonder if they are generating a cushion to roll over into next year.
I think that's the most likely scenario. They're giving themselves some carry over in the event they need to dip intonfree agency in a big way next year. It also gives them a little cushion this year should something happen where they need to grab someone similar to what we saw with Dareus last season.
I'm thinking these moves are to help keep Fowler
(03-21-2018, 10:02 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking these moves are to help keep Fowler
I hope not. Fowler got some sacks last year but other than that I think he needs a lot of work to be an every down player. Maybe that happens this year but I don't think he will be worth the money he would demand.
(03-21-2018, 07:49 AM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]Telvin Smith restructures deal with Jaguars https://t.co/POT6THTdmA
We got even more cap space now
@fieldyates Source: the Jaguars wound up converting an $8M roster bonus due this past Sunday to LB Telvin Smith into a signing bonus, creating $6M in cap space for 2018.
Telvin lost nothing in the deal. He didn't sacrifice money to get somebody else signed. Maintenance of contract practices is a good thing. The NFL should allow teams to prorate roster bonuses.
Remember when people were saying a big Arob deal would ruin our cap?
The most likely reason for this would be to do some restructuring on guys already here, or even a new deal that moves some guaranteed money forward to this year's cap, that they want to keep moving forward, think Marcellus or Malik on the defensive line.
Standard practice. This is what I mean when we say don’t worry too much about the cap. There are plenty of ways to make space if you need to. The Steelers have been doing this for years.
This is kind of a weird restructure. Telvin didn't take a pay cut in any way and I would assume the team's plans are for him to play his entire contract. It will free up some money this year, but if you roll it over, it will eventually catch up with subsequent signing bonus money. This looks more geared for some sort of move for this year - whether it be some other contract restructuring to push more money onto this year for players that may not see the end of their contracts and have guaranteed money deep into it... Or some unforeseen trade/signing.
(03-21-2018, 10:06 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 10:02 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking these moves are to help keep Fowler
I hope not. Fowler got some sacks last year but other than that I think he needs a lot of work to be an every down player. Maybe that happens this year but I don't think he will be worth the money he would demand.
I hope we do. He has shown steady improvement, he is good against the run, and can drop into coverage if we want to get creative. Instead of just looking at a sack number look at the pressures too. He creates a lot of pressures when he doesn't get sacks
They're going to trade for Odell Beckham Jr.
JK. I have no [BLEEP] clue what's going on. Just glad to see that this front office is putting the TEAM first. Hurns wasn't willing to rework his contract I believe. So that's why he was cut. And apparently Lewis threatened not to show up for activities. So... it is what it is. Team first.
(03-21-2018, 10:33 AM)FreeAgent01 Wrote: [ -> ]This is kind of a weird restructure. Telvin didn't take a pay cut in any way and I would assume the team's plans are for him to play his entire contract. It will free up some money this year, but if you roll it over, it will eventually catch up with subsequent signing bonus money. This looks more geared for some sort of move for this year - whether it be some other contract restructuring to push more money onto this year for players that may not see the end of their contracts and have guaranteed money deep into it... Or some unforeseen trade/signing.
This would be my best guess as of now. Perhaps they want to go ahead and pay some money right now to a Dareus or Campbell type of contract to clear some potential dead money out of the way in 2019 or 2020.
(03-21-2018, 09:43 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 09:37 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Ya, nothing is guaranteed. The team has something up their sleeves, I can only think they mean to make splash in the draft... IDK...something..The Jags need another QB or two...
But why would cap space increase our ability to make a splash in the draft?
I wonder if the rookie draft pool adjusts upward to accommodate a higher draft pick.
If so, perhaps the moves to increase cap space is designed to accommodate a trade up?
(03-21-2018, 10:47 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 09:43 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ]But why would cap space increase our ability to make a splash in the draft?
I wonder if the rookie draft pool adjusts upward to accommodate a higher draft pick.
If so, perhaps the moves to increase cap space is designed to accommodate a trade up?
I was thinking the same.
(03-21-2018, 10:47 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (03-21-2018, 09:43 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ]But why would cap space increase our ability to make a splash in the draft?
I wonder if the rookie draft pool adjusts upward to accommodate a higher draft pick.
If so, perhaps the moves to increase cap space is designed to accommodate a trade up?
I think it's probably a long term housekeeping move to push out some of the cap hit. We'll still have the same total cap hit, just spread out a little. It reduces the cap hit this year, but adds to the cap hit over the next several seasons, but counteracting that, this year's reduction can be carried forward.
My guess is it doesn't mean anything much, because it's something they needed to do whether they were going to use the cap space this year or not.
Is there a SAM linebacker out there in free agency they could be eyeballing?
Outside of that - or a journeyman back-up QB - this move really seems like housekeeping to make room for re-signings and extensions.