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Sadly the latest report is that kid was wearing communist, nazi, and gay pride symbols on his clothing in addition to a Baphomet. Looks like this is going to be another left wing inspired massacre.

(05-19-2018, 12:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sadly the latest report is that kid was wearing communist, nazi, and gay pride symbols on his clothing in addition to a Baphomet. Looks like this is going to be another left wing inspired massacre.

So he was a gay, communist, nazi satanist? That sounded like a red flag to me.

(05-19-2018, 12:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sadly the latest report is that kid was wearing communist, nazi, and gay pride symbols on his clothing in addition to a Baphomet. Looks like this is going to be another left wing inspired massacre.

If you reached any farther, you might have been able to grab one of Bortles' passes at the end and get us to the Super Bowl.

(05-19-2018, 11:48 AM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-18-2018, 04:51 PM)TurndownforWatt Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know if you've heard or not, gun ownership can be taken away from you too.

I have heard that, usually shouted by people who have absolutely zero interest in doing the job themselves.  They want somebody else to handle the small detail of rounding up 100 million heavily armed citizens for the crime of what, exactly?  Making Jimmy Kimmel unfunny?

What the hell are you talking about?

BTW I am a supporter of the 2nd amendment so you've completely misread me.

I just feel if you can't be a responsible gun owner then you shouldn't have the right to, because that irresponsible behavior makes every other responsible gun owner look bad and just leads to further attacks on the 2nd amendment.

(05-19-2018, 03:36 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 12:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Sadly the latest report is that kid was wearing communist, nazi, and gay pride symbols on his clothing in addition to a Baphomet. Looks like this is going to be another left wing inspired massacre.

If you reached any farther, you might have been able to grab one of Bortles' passes at the end and get us to the Super Bowl.

Walks like a lefty, dresses like a lefty, and massacres people like a lefty then he's most likely exactly a lefty, no reaching required.

(05-19-2018, 03:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:36 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]If you reached any farther, you might have been able to grab one of Bortles' passes at the end and get us to the Super Bowl.

Walks like a lefty, dresses like a lefty, and massacres people like a lefty then he's most likely exactly a lefty, no reaching required.

So Nazis are lefties now? You know they weren't fond of communists or homosexuals, right?

Massacres people like a lefty? Are you drunk, or just trolling again?

(05-19-2018, 03:51 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Walks like a lefty, dresses like a lefty, and massacres people like a lefty then he's most likely exactly a lefty, no reaching required.

So Nazis are lefties now? You know they weren't fond of communists or homosexuals, right?

Massacres people like a lefty? Are you drunk?

Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:51 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]So Nazis are lefties now? You know they weren't fond of communists or homosexuals, right?

Massacres people like a lefty? Are you drunk?

Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Are you basing this on the fact they had socialist in the name? Just like north Korea is democratic right?

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:51 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]So Nazis are lefties now? You know they weren't fond of communists or homosexuals, right?

Massacres people like a lefty? Are you drunk?

Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Left, right, middle, whatever...the dude was a typical head case. Goes from being active at school to a closed-up “freak” getting picked on. In any case, at least there is some consistency in all this. CNN wasted no time politicizing the situation and has begun their false-facts campaign.

https://www.westernjournal.com/cnn-uses-...tatistics/

(05-19-2018, 05:20 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Are you basing this on the fact they had socialist in the name? Just like north Korea is democratic right?

Of course not, it's based on their political platform.

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:51 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]So Nazis are lefties now? You know they weren't fond of communists or homosexuals, right?

Massacres people like a lefty? Are you drunk?

Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Your problem is you equate oppression, nationalism and despotic dictators who call themselves Communists so they control populations with the Left.  

They seize guns? Leftist. 

They centralize government? Leftist.

They persecute minorities, gypsies, communists, heterosexuals, academics...leftists?

Give me a freaking break. 

The Texas gunman was a defensive tackle on the football team who attended the Greek Orthodox Church. He liked music that appeals to neo-Nazis and alt-rightists.

He wasn't a leftist or righty. He was a freaking nut job.

(05-19-2018, 05:55 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Left, right, middle, whatever...the dude was a typical head case. Goes from being active at school to a closed-up “freak” getting picked on. In any case, at least there is some consistency in all this. CNN wasted no time politicizing the situation and has begun their false-facts campaign.

https://www.westernjournal.com/cnn-uses-...tatistics/

Notably absent from the linked report was any link to the criticized report by CNN. No way of knowing if CNN added any context or elaboration of the statistic. CNN isn't the only one with an agenda.

Oh, lookie here what I found. Every incident described, every parameter for determining what constitutes a school shooting explained. A very transparent article for anyone actually reading it, instead of relying on another article to tell you what to think.

(05-19-2018, 09:49 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 05:55 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Left, right, middle, whatever...the dude was a typical head case. Goes from being active at school to a closed-up “freak” getting picked on. In any case, at least there is some consistency in all this. CNN wasted no time politicizing the situation and has begun their false-facts campaign.

https://www.westernjournal.com/cnn-uses-...tatistics/

Notably absent from the linked report was any link to the criticized report by CNN. No way of knowing if CNN added any context or elaboration of the statistic. CNN isn't the only one with an agenda.

Oh, lookie here what I found. Every incident described, every parameter for determining what constitutes a school shooting explained. A very transparent article for anyone actually reading it, instead of relying on another article to tell you what to think.

(05-19-2018, 09:57 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Transparent article? It’s flat out wrong and misleading. A BB gun, really? I wonder what category you’ll find that under in the FBI statistics. Polly want a cracker?

(05-19-2018, 10:04 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 09:49 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Notably absent from the linked report was any link to the criticized report by CNN. No way of knowing if CNN added any context or elaboration of the statistic. CNN isn't the only one with an agenda.

Oh, lookie here what I found. Every incident described, every parameter for determining what constitutes a school shooting explained. A very transparent article for anyone actually reading it, instead of relying on another article to tell you what to think.

(05-19-2018, 09:57 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ]Transparent article? It’s flat out wrong and misleading. A BB gun, really? I wonder what category you’ll find that under in the FBI statistics. Polly want a cracker?

You quoted an article with no link, I found the link. Every point in the article you linked was addressed, every single one of the incidents was described. There was no attempt to mislead. You cited an article, did no follow-up, parroted its conclusion verbatim. I know reading is hard, here's a saltine.

(05-19-2018, 09:23 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Your problem is you equate oppression, nationalism and despotic dictators who call themselves Communists so they control populations with the Left.  

They seize guns? Leftist. 

They centralize government? Leftist.

They persecute minorities, gypsies, communists, heterosexuals, academics...leftists?

Give me a freaking break. 

The Texas gunman was a defensive tackle on the football team who attended the Greek Orthodox Church. He liked music that appeals to neo-Nazis and alt-rightists.

He wasn't a leftist or righty. He was a freaking nut job.

Excerpts from The Nazi Party Platform, the official positions of the National Socialists: 

The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. 




Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery. 



In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.


We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).



We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.



We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.



We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.



We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.



We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.



We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.



The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.



The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.



We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.



We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:

a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;

b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;
c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

 Their whole damn platform is summed up in Point 24 - "The good of the community before the good of the individual" 



So yeah, the Nazis were leftists; competition for the Communists, predecessors of the rabid American Left. Just different shades of the Left and everyone of them evil to the core.

(05-19-2018, 09:23 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 03:56 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Nazis were always lefties, it's historical revisionism to think otherwise. And yes, go back through the non-religious inspired massacres of the last 120 years and you'll find that the left is the instigator the vast majority of the time.

Your problem is you equate oppression, nationalism and despotic dictators who call themselves Communists so they control populations with the Left.  

They seize guns? Leftist. 

They centralize government? Leftist.

They persecute minorities, gypsies, communists, heterosexuals, academics...leftists?

Give me a freaking break. 

The Texas gunman was a defensive tackle on the football team who attended the Greek Orthodox Church. He liked music that appeals to neo-Nazis and alt-rightists.

He wasn't a leftist or righty. He was a freaking nut job.

With the gay, nazi, communist and satanic paraphernalia the kid had, he sounded like a very confused, "walking contradiction." It sounds like he was just looking for something to rebel against, yet he skipped the parts where he actually researched the things he was promoting. If he did, he'd know that most contradicted each other.

(05-19-2018, 11:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2018, 09:23 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Your problem is you equate oppression, nationalism and despotic dictators who call themselves Communists so they control populations with the Left.  

They seize guns? Leftist. 

They centralize government? Leftist.

They persecute minorities, gypsies, communists, heterosexuals, academics...leftists?

Give me a freaking break. 

The Texas gunman was a defensive tackle on the football team who attended the Greek Orthodox Church. He liked music that appeals to neo-Nazis and alt-rightists.

He wasn't a leftist or righty. He was a freaking nut job.

Excerpts from The Nazi Party Platform, the official positions of the National Socialists: 

The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. 




Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery. 



In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.


We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).



We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.



We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.



We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.



We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.



We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.



We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.



The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.



The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.



We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.



We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:

a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;

b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;
c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

 Their whole damn platform is summed up in Point 24 - "The good of the community before the good of the individual" 



So yeah, the Nazis were leftists; competition for the Communists, predecessors of the rabid American Left. Just different shades of the Left and everyone of them evil to the core.

Sounds a bit like trumpism. Which isn't surprising as they were both populist.

Nazis also hated the communists.

AAANNnnndd... do you see what this thread has resorted to?

That's the exact damn reason why we can't have the necessary discussions to solve this problem. Which is rapidly becoming the biggest problem of this era.

He wasn't a Nazi liberal or some gun wielding NRA conservative thumping his bible either. But the masses keep us going at eachother and divided us so much that we'll continue to drop step in their individual lines and never get to the bottom of this or what's causing this...why are our children committing mass murder at a alarming rate? EVERYBODY IS AT FAULT for this. This isn't a gun issue..it's what we've become as a country.

Y'all have got to block that political crap out and find common ground. It's all hate spewed from both sides while the leaders of both sides are busy high fiving behind the scenes...That's American politics today. Divide, divide, divide. Cash in. We the people have to unplug and wake the hell up.

(05-19-2018, 10:35 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]You quoted an article with no link, I found the link. Every point in the article you linked was addressed, every single one of the incidents was described. There was no attempt to mislead. You cited an article, did no follow-up, parroted its conclusion verbatim. I know reading is hard, here's a saltine.

Did you even attemmpt to read the articles? If you read the CNN article you posted, can you keep a straight face and say it was not misleading? Just because certain incidents meet the CNN framework doesn’t make them legit in the “school shooting” dept. I’m seeing you might have the reading down but there is a disconnect in the comprehension department. 

So let us go with the high CNN number of 22...gun problem, security issue, or kids have gone mental?